Posted on 06/21/2009 5:22:09 PM PDT by ventanax5
Having been in transit during the start of the Iranian election protests, I've taken a little time to come up to speed on the issue. Scanning English-language (UK) papers in airports, I will say that my initial reaction to the euphoria I saw breaking out all over the West -- especially the US? -- to the obtusely labeled "green" revolution was, Why should we be so happy about Mousavi? When I learned that Mousavi was Mullah Rafsanjani's boy, that A-jad was Mullah Khameini's boy, my wonder deepened, as in: What's the diff? When I read John Bolton's piece at Politico noting that nobody runs for president in Iran without the express approval of the mullahs, my gut reaction was bolstered by some real facts. Here is Bolton's cheat sheet rundown:
First, only candidates screened and approved by the mullahs in the Guardian Council could run — in this case, exactly four presidential candidates out of nearly 500 who applied. Second, Iran’s highest official is not the president but, rather, the supreme leader, currently Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Third, Iran’s election officials are not independent but rigorously controlled by the supreme leader. Fourth, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and other security forces stand ready, willing and able to preserve public safety if the “wrong” candidate appeared to win or protestd in defeat.
(Excerpt) Read more at dianawest.net ...
Bush went to Iraq to establish democracy in the middle of the terrorists and look how many years it’s taken. Now Obama and his supporters are trying to take credit for what’s going on based on one mostly baloney speech in Cairo.
I know this is true because I just talked to someone who claimed this revolution wouldn’t be happening if W were still President. Sooooo many deluded people. My reply was that how much the Iranians have felt watching Iraq’s free election while theirs was a joke. No response yet....
Why should we be so happy about Mousavi? When I learned that Mousavi was Mullah Rafsanjani's boy, that A-jad was Mullah Khameini's boy, my wonder deepened, as in: What's the diff? When I read John Bolton's piece at Politico noting that nobody runs for president in Iran without the express approval of the mullahs, my gut reaction was bolstered by some real facts. Here is Bolton's cheat sheet rundown...
?? How did you infer that from my post?
NutJob is claiming a very high vote, when in reality it was probably very low. The ballots were created in a way that votes met for Mousavi could be twisted and given to NutJob. The people are very aware of this and at the very least would like a re-election. But they are being told that’s not going to happen.
If there were a high number of supporters for NutJob, IMHO, I don’t think you’d see the numbers protesting that we’ve been seeing.
the horse is out of the barn-things will heat up as people are trying to arm themselves (publicly and privately). If it’s true Basij Headquarters is down or has fallen , this is just ONLY the beginning. Those Basij are the most awful.
It's a letter by the Interior Minister, Sadegh Mahsouli, to Khamenei informing him of the steps taken to declare Ahmadinejad the winner of the election.
The letter also includes the actual results as follows:
Total votes: 42,026,078
Mousavi: 19,075,623
Karroubi: 13,387,104
Ahmadinejad: 5,698,417
Rezai: 3,754,218
Invalid votes: 38,716
Thank you! That’s exactly what I saw but didn’t bookmark it.
That’s what I took away from it. The two are the same, she didn’t see it as getting rid of the Mullahs.
“We’re happy that the iranian people are demanding change.”
You mean like Obama?
Hank
She said the watchers in the West are projecting and hoping. Yet, perhaps the students and others are too fearful to appear too pro-Western at this point.
Whoa, the percentage of NutJob is lower here than what I saw reported elsewhere. It’s 13.5% if your link, and I had read elsewhere that it was about 25%. IIRC, NutJob was claming over 75% of the vote.
Oh well, lesson learned. Bookmark all relevant information for future reference.
LOL. Sunday night, I’m tired and should be in bed. Take care.
Stay up.:)(((((((Hugs)))))))
The election was just a catalyst. Earlier messages coming out from twitter from the protesters indicated that the majority of citizens (who are Persians) are fed up being ruled by Islamic mullahs from a “desert trash religion”.
Has there been ant word from the late SHAH,S SON.I believe he is in the US.
Reference Mark
LOL! Still here. ((((fatima)))))
Yes, Mousavi is a “bad guy” too. However, I think this has gone beyond him at this point. My Persian friends said at the very beginning that both candidates had to be thoroughly vetted by the clerics before running, but he was at least somewhat less evil than A-jad.
In the case of Iran the people are demanding change and actually have expectations.
Here Obama promised change, never said what it would be, and the sheep went along with whatever it was.
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