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To: ventanax5
I believe this thing is outrunning the "candidates". The many, many young people (and a lot of the older ones too) of Iran want freedom, not another puppet to tyranical Islamic rule.

I believe we could see the birth or republicanism in Iran, but it may very possibly become much more bloody before it is over. The Basij and many in the Revoultionary Guard are not likely to go quietly.

The key is, "What will the regular Army do?" And will they (say, Like Washington) be willing to take part in ending the Islamic tyranny and then hand it over to a new, true Republic?

At this point, the people may not accept anything less.

One thing is sure...it is Bush's direct engagement, support of liberty, and policies that are driving this. Still bearing fruit. Obama is trying like crazy to spin this to his advantage, but we cannot let him lie and try and steal it. His policies would have made this impossible...just as they would have made Iraq impossible.

...and that is precisely Obama's problem.

George Bush's legacy and fight endures in the Mid East, despite, and in spite of Obama, and THAT is Obama's real dilema.

It was George Bush's policy of direct engagement and support of liberty that has led to the people of Iran seeing the measure of freedom now established on both sides of them in Iraq and Afghjanistan...and desiring it for themselves.

Obama cannot possibly go too far in recognizing that, or he absolutely repudiates himself and his entire foreign policy.

...but the fight in Iran is far from over, and is getting brutal.


WARNING:GRAPHIC:

Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N--Kc

Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY


RUNNING BATTLES IN TEHRAN

URGENT: HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT IRANIAN PROTESTORS RIGHT NOW...ON TWITTER

AMERICANS SUPPORTING IRAN LIBERTY

AMERICANS DON'T NEED OBAMA SPEAKING FOR THEM, WE'RE FREE AND CAN SPEAK FOR OURSELVES

POEM FOR THE ROOFTOPS OF IRAN - INCREDIBLY MOVING

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3 posted on 06/21/2009 5:27:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
I believe this thing is outrunning the "candidates". The many, many young people (and a lot of the older ones too) of Iran want freedom, not another puppet to tyranical Islamic rule.

I believe this too. I know about Mousavi, but this is more than him.

11 posted on 06/21/2009 5:31:58 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Jeff Head

I agree, it’s not about Mousavi.

Young Iranian dissident, Amir Fakhravar, formerly jailed protestor in Iran. Says protests are about freedom, are against the supreme leader (they have no particular love for Mousavi).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzNr5alD_TQ


19 posted on 06/21/2009 5:48:41 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Jeff Head
I believe this thing is outrunning the “candidates”.

Exactly. No one can predict the outcomes of spontaneous revolutions, but there are moments in history where the stars align and change, although unlikely, becomes possible. We heard all the tired arguments of the timid before just as the Soviet Union was collapsing. I'm sure the founding fathers heard them before they signed the declaration.
We can't know what will happen, but fortune smiles upon the brave and there are brave people struggling and dying for a measure of freedom right now in Iran. We Americans have always been the natural allies of people struggling to be free. We should stand with them.

23 posted on 06/21/2009 5:54:01 PM PDT by Old North State (r)
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To: Jeff Head

Bush went to Iraq to establish democracy in the middle of the terrorists and look how many years it’s taken. Now Obama and his supporters are trying to take credit for what’s going on based on one mostly baloney speech in Cairo.

I know this is true because I just talked to someone who claimed this revolution wouldn’t be happening if W were still President. Sooooo many deluded people. My reply was that how much the Iranians have felt watching Iraq’s free election while theirs was a joke. No response yet....


41 posted on 06/21/2009 6:39:04 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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