Posted on 06/29/2009 10:15:50 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
Plenty of referal posts to articles claiming a military "coup" here in FR. All are propaganda Big Lies.
Posting this to be clear on what the Honduran Congress did, their Supreme Court, Attorney General and the Honduran Constitution (from various sources):
- Zelaya was violating his country’s constitution with his referendum that would have, Chavez-style, repealed term limits on the presidency. The Honduras Supreme Court ruled the referendum illegal, and the military refused to distribute the ballots. Instead of backing down, Zelaya fired the head of the military, which precipitated the ouster.
- Zelaya declared the vote on his own and had Mr. Chávez ship him the necessary ballots from Venezuela. The Supreme Court ruled his referendum unconstitutional, and it instructed the military not to carry out the logistics of the vote as it normally would do.
The top military commander, Gen. Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, told the president that he would have to comply. Mr. Zelaya promptly fired him. The Supreme Court ordered him reinstated. Mr. Zelaya refused.
Calculating that some critical mass of Hondurans would take his side, the president decided he would run the referendum himself. So on Thursday he led a mob that broke into the military installation where the ballots from Venezuela were being stored and then had his supporters distribute them in defiance of the Supreme Court's order.
The attorney general had already made clear that the referendum was illegal, and he further announced that he would prosecute anyone involved in carrying it out.
- HONDURAN CONSTITUTION:
Title VII, with two chapters, outlines the process of amending the constitution and sets forth the principle of constitutional inviolability. The constitution may be amended by the National Congress after a two-thirds vote of all its members in two consecutive regular annual sessions. However, several constitutional provisions may not be amended. These consist of the amendment process itself, as well as provisions covering the form of government, national territory, and several articles covering the presidency, including term of office and prohibition from reelection.
http://countrystudies.us/honduras/84.htm
Makes sense the way ozero’s media is reporting that this was a “coup”. The Honduran president was ignoring their constitution and the people were enforcing the law. Ozero doesn’t agree with that. Wonder why?
0buma thinks otherwise.
I wish our military would............Oh never mind. What’s the point?
-Article 42 strips citizenship rights from those who call for the re-election or continuing (beyond the term) of the President of the Republic.
- Article 239 not only prohibits the re-election of a President of the Republic, but calls for the immediate removal from public office and disqualification from any political office for 10 years any person who calls for a change in that prohibition.
- Article 373 gives the power to amend the Constitution solely to the National Congress, with no role for any “referendum”.
- Article 374 prohibits any amendments to the prohibition of a multi-term President of the Republic.
Of course Obortion sides with Zelaya, as one dictator to another. Obortion would like very much to try what Zelaya tried.
Thanks.... I’ll keep watching to see that side of the story told... maybe, in the WSJ.
Figures Zero would be all about saving this guy.
Zelaya wanted to trample on the Constitution and declare himself president for life. Gee, I wonder why Hussein supports him?
bump
He sees himself.
A Marxist who arrogates power despite the Constitutional limits on his power.
Our military would if given a lawful Constitutionally sound order after our Congress followed due process of law and voted to impeach and remove the usurper. That's how it was done in Honduras and they deserve a big round of applause for standing strong on the rule of law in a very bad situation.
There was no extra-legal military coup in Honduras and we shouldn't be hoping for one here.
Because 0bama wants to do the same thing in 2016.
I've noticed such is the precipitating event for a great many conflicts: everything is just hot air until someone unauthorized sets foot on a military base and makes a fuss about being removed - and the subsequent festivites all are rooted in that event, regardless of rhetoric. Our own Civil War, AFAIK, occurred when Fort Sumter was attacked, overrun, and not returned to the Union; all subsequent activites of the war can be traced back to that point (had it been returned and secession otherwise continued, we may very well be two countries now).
Methinks if Mr. Zelaya had just kept his cronies out of the military base he might have pulled off a repeat of Chavez.
Looks iron-clad to me...so what is Obamao’s problem ?
That`s great except the military isn`t interested in power.
If they were then Roberto Micheletti, leader of the Congress and constitutional successor to the president would not have been declared President by the Congress.
Picked this up:
Speaking via telephone from his home in Tegucigalpa on Monday, interim Honduran President Roberto Micheletti again defended the actions of Honduran military officials in booting President Manuel Zelaya from power.
‘’We can’t allow that this government take us to communism or socialism,’’
... The attorney general and the Supreme Court declared the poll illegal
...Micheletti, a member of Zelaya’s party, had denied that a military coup had taken place to remove Zelaya from office.
...President Zelaya and the military were part of a strict chain of command that dissolved when the president attempted to violate the Constituion,’’ said Micheletti.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/70966.html
Micheletti will remain in office until he does something that displeases the military’s puppetmaster. Then the generals will arrest and depose him just as they did Zelaya — regardless of what the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Attorney General think.
LOL
ooohhh kaaayyy,
“I`m due back on planet Earth now” see ya,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGPcSd7DDLk
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