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Feds could seize Calif. parks if closed by budget (threaten to seize 6 state parks if closed)
ap on Sac bee ^ | 7/1/09 | AP

Posted on 07/01/2009 12:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The California governor's office says federal officials are threatening to seize six state parks if they are closed to help balance the state's budget.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has proposed closing 220 state parks.

But the National Park Service warned in a letter to Schwarzenegger that six of those parks are on former federal land that could revert to the U.S. government if they are not kept open as parks.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; feds; parks; schwarzenegger; seize; stateparks
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1 posted on 07/01/2009 12:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

oh noze- next, a Park Czar


2 posted on 07/01/2009 12:43:23 PM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: NormsRevenge

Translation:

“Don’t worry, we will force tax payers in other states to pay for those parks so your illegals can keep enjoying them”.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 12:45:03 PM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Let the Feds have them.

It's the last thing they actually want.

4 posted on 07/01/2009 12:46:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Let them. It’s an empty threat.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 12:46:36 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This kind of brings up a question I have: How does the federal government own land? Unless the fed pays a state for real property, or it’s not owned privately, all land should belong to the state in which it is inside the borders of. You know - states right, that kind of thing.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 12:47:27 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc

“states rights” . . ..


7 posted on 07/01/2009 12:48:28 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc

The Feds own land that military bases are on.

I don’t know who the owners of all the AIRPORTS are- but that might be a multitude of owners.

But- the AIR CONTROLLERS at those airports are Fed employees, I think.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 12:49:40 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: NormsRevenge

Can you identify the parks involved?


9 posted on 07/01/2009 12:50:08 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jewbacca

I live in CA and I use these parks all the time (Angel Island, Mt. Diablo, Hearst Castle), especially since I have 2 boys scouts and 1 cub scout and we hike all the time, and I say. . .fine with me.

It’s immaterial to me whether these parks are National Parks or State Parks. Perhaps they’d be better off as National Parks; I don’t know. I imagine the National Parks might cost more $$ as far as entrance fees?


10 posted on 07/01/2009 12:51:48 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: ridesthemiles

Not sure yet, I will do some digging or maybe someone else can help out..

Can you imagine how this is gonna go over with the Mexican Mafia and their marijuana plantations on state lands and fed too? ;-)


11 posted on 07/01/2009 12:52:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Murky News has this, 3 areas ,, angel island, mt. diablo, 4 miles of beaches and dunes near Fort Ord /Monterey

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12727075?source=rss

Feds may take possession of some California parks, if they close

By Paul Rogers

The federal government is threatening to take possession of several of California’s most prominent state parks — including Angel Island in San Francisco Bay, the top of Mount Diablo and four miles of beaches at Fort Ord Dunes near Monterey — if Sacramento lawmakers close them to balance the budget.

That’s the message from the National Park Service, which also has told Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger that California will be blocked from receiving future money from the Land and Water Conservation Fund, the leading federal source of funding for parks, if it closes state parks now.

The warnings came in a letter dated June 8 and obtained Tuesday by the Mercury News from Jon Jarvis, the Pacific regional director of the National Park Service, to Schwarzenegger.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 12:56:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: jeffc

The short answer is that the land belonged to the federal government first, since they acquired the territory. When states were formed out of US Territories, ownership of empty lands remained with the federal government. The states didn’t automatically get land owned by the federal government simply by forming states.


13 posted on 07/01/2009 12:56:44 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lower taxes, deport illegals, end unions and cut 50% of the bureaucrats.

There, fixed the State.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 1:00:28 PM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: NormsRevenge

I always thought the US Constitution forbid the feds from owning State lands.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Jewbacca

Not one thought of SELLING them, is there?


16 posted on 07/01/2009 1:01:29 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

With the exception of Texas.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 1:02:44 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: CodeToad

The Constitution forbids a lot of things.
Leftists give the Constitution zero weight when it conflicts with their agenda.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 1:02:58 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good... Let Ice Cream take care of them. We have enough to pay for already.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 1:03:26 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jeffc
As far as I am aware, except for the original 13 colonies and Texas, all territory was owned by the federal government because it purchased the land from other countries or won it in wars.

The federal government then either sold or homesteaded out most of it, the rest was kept in federal possession. In fact much of the upper Midwest is still to my knowledge owned by the federal government to this day and is just leased to the individuals who live on it.

20 posted on 07/01/2009 1:09:23 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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