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Sarah Palin For President
Macleans ^ | July 2, 2009 | John Parisella

Posted on 07/02/2009 9:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds far-fetched and, to some, totally implausible. But the Republicans are losing potential candidates at a pace that is downright alarming if you believe in a healthy two-party system. The demise of John Ensign’s political career a few weeks ago and the surreal downfall of Mark Sanford last week is enough to send chills through the even the most optimistic Republican strategist. We know that of the 2008 crop, only Mitt Romney seems likely to stay on as a contender. The old stalwarts like Newt Gingrich may get a lot of press, but it is unlikely they can mount a real challenge to Obama in 2012. Yet, the presidential election of 2012 will be more than a simple coronation of Barack Obama if the economy stalls and there is no progress in two important areas: national security and healthcare.

Ballooning deficits and a sluggish economy could alter the mood of America by the time the 2010 mid-terms come up, giving hope to the GOP for the next presidential primary season. This is why Sarah Palin is maintaining a persistent media presence, whether it is debating David Letterman or being the biggest Republican draw on the lecture circuit. She clearly has her eyes set on the presidency.

The latest edition of Vanity Fair brings this possibility forward, though not in a favourable light. Journalist Todd Purdhom paints a picture of a woman with a narcissistic personality, who’s short on knowledge, disinterested in policy discussion, and not ready for primetime. In the end, the story says more about John McCain’s competence and character than it does about Palin, simply because he flubbed his most important decision as a presidential candidate. That said, Palin brought much needed energy to an otherwise lackluster campaign and, to this day, she energizes the base as no other candidate can. Could it be possible she may someday be a candidate for the presidency?

My experience tells me that no one should be written off in a hypothetical context. Barack Obama is proof positive of this. I still maintain that, without Bush, there is no Obama nomination. Palin is a street smart politician who has benefited from being underestimated most of her career. McCain’s disastrous choice may have been fatal to his electoral chances, but it brought Palin to the forefront of national attention. Since then, she has become a celebrity that transcends her party. However, if she is to be taken seriously and considered a viable contender, she needs to change the negative perceptions of her and develop a political profile that appeals to those outside her narrow base.

To do this, she must gradually reduce her exposure and begin to educate herself on the issues. She will not be ready for 2012 by remaining governor of Alaska and playing the celebrity. The GOP has too proud a tradition to have a re-run of the 2008 vice-presidential candidate. Also, the base Palin relies on for support no longer holds the sway it once did. Social conservatism is losing steam as a political movement thanks to the dubious habits of people like Gingrich, Ensign and Sanford, and the election of an African-American president as well as the increased attention paid to gay rights issues shows that Americans have begun to cast their old divisions aside. The future for the GOP lies with fiscal conservatism and strong national security policy—not with turning back the clock. Palin must embrace the values that created the Republican party in the first place—a belief in the individual, a belief in a limited role for the state, and a commitment to equality. The party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and (the pragmatic version of) Reagan is the path to a Republican resurgence. Palin is nowhere on that radar. She is all about celebrity status and controversy.

In the lead-up to July 4, Americans usually reflect on their great democracy. Overall, it is healthy and has shown resilience through the decades. But the Republicans have to become a viable alternative for this democracy to remain vibrant. So is Palin a real possibility for 2012 or 2016? Will she someday be a formal candidate for the presidency? Most definitely. But can she ever win? Based on what we have observed so far, I would say definitely not, though politics has been known to produce some strange developments.


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To: goldwaterepublican
im just trying to figure out who elected obama

A RINO running against him...conservatives who stayed home because of it....white guilt....LOTS of white guilt...(I think we are over that now...) fence sitters tired of the status quo....etc etc etc....

241 posted on 07/02/2009 11:38:41 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: deannadurbin; SoCalPol
I want a professional, conservative, fresh candidate starting with a clean fresh plate. No old newsbites being resurrected with Sarah blanking out during high profile interviews. It’s too damaging.

His fresh clean plate will be dirty 20 minutes after he declares his campaign for Presidency.

He is just as conservative as Sarah and the Press hates conservatives and will attempt to kill his campaign just as hard as they are attempting to kill Sarah's.

Given that this is the case, what is your real reason for not liking Sarah?
242 posted on 07/02/2009 11:39:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: deannadurbin

Clean family life, is that code for something.

There is one Jesus, You won’t find another


243 posted on 07/02/2009 11:39:08 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: spikeytx86
You are correct!

Yes, most would not endure that on their day off with no true interest in the candidate.... that or they were there with the "Barky" protestors LOL!!!

I guess one could people watch and laugh at all the Sarah supporters by attending as a protester.

244 posted on 07/02/2009 11:39:12 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Waryone
It always seems to come up Romney or RINOs or the types who hate social conservatives. They know that if things stay the way they are now, Sarah Palin would win the Republican nomination by a landslide.

A big Bingo!

245 posted on 07/02/2009 11:39:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: deannadurbin
I saw her in Orlando and had beautiful weather and there were lots of people. But Florida still went for Obama.

uh....it was Obama vs McCain....

246 posted on 07/02/2009 11:40:09 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: SoCalPol
I have to admit my admiration for Sanford at a certain level.

He did not deny his love for a woman; some of the released emails reminded me of Song of Solomon in a way. And he never tried to trash her to save his skin. Even in his embarrasment and shame he was a gentleman. A heterosexual. A mortal human being.

Some are sickened and I can't criticize their judgement, but I would be proud to be his freind, were I so honored. If he were my Senator I would still support him.

247 posted on 07/02/2009 11:40:15 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: SoConPubbie
And our country calls itself conservative by a 40% to 22% margin, so your analogy is fatally flawed.
Yeah, and 40% is about what Palin would get in a rematch against 0bama. That's about right historically for this type of rematch.
Your Gallup figures tell us that Sarah Palin was attracted 40% of the vote, and McCain attracted the remaining 6% for their 46% vote share.

The problem here, as you can see, is that 40% < 50%.
40% won't win anyone an election.
And Sarah Palin is amazingly unpopular among moderates and independents, who are the ones that hold the keys to electoral success. Because Palin does not appeal to moderates and independents at all, instead she repels them, she cannot win a national election.
 
248 posted on 07/02/2009 11:41:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I would vote for Sarah if she were the nominee for 2012, but I truly believe she wouldn’t win. It’s as simple as that. I want fresh blood. I’ve seen John Thune in action and he wouldn’t give the press the ammunition that Sarah has given.

I want to WIN. I don’t think Sarah can do that. They’re are too many lazy people in America today who want government handouts. In economic crisis they vote for Democrats. It’s why FDR had four terms. When people get scared about the economy they vote Democrat. When people are scared about foreign policy issues like terrorism they vote Republican.


249 posted on 07/02/2009 11:41:31 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: beckett

Like I’m going to take your advice over the excellent political and patriotic instincts of thousands of Freepers, including myself.

NOT.

Your slam on Sarah Palin is a wholly unsupported ad hominem attack. She is imminently qualified to assume the office of president. Much more so, than anyone else who ran for the office this last election cycle.


251 posted on 07/02/2009 11:41:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: deannadurbin

blaking out in interviews, your stuck in the DU talking points.

Get John Zigler’s Media Malpractice which documents the editing, and other crap that went on with those interviews.


252 posted on 07/02/2009 11:42:08 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: deannadurbin; spikeytx86
I saw her in Orlando and had beautiful weather and there were lots of people.

But Florida still went for Obama.


Florida, like the rest of the US had to choose between a slick talker and a Democrat-lite candidate in McCain.

To repeat, McCain was the Presidential candidate, not Sarah.

McCain lost because of his lousy positions on the issues, not because of Sarah.

There is no logic in that position.

So once again I ask, why do you really dislike Sarah?

Which positions are you against?

Where is your substantial proof that she is not up to the task of effectively communicating her positions at least as well as other candidates if not better?
253 posted on 07/02/2009 11:42:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Waryone
or they are the ones trying to do the manipulating.

That's it!

not giving her all these backhanded compliments and slaps in the face.

Good 'right on' post.
254 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: counterpunch
Sarah Palin is amazingly unpopular among moderates and independents,

Just give Barry more time to totally screw us all over... and did you not see the Gallup poll with moderates dropping along with liberals and conservatives gaining numbers?

255 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:36 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: deannadurbin
I would vote for Sarah if she were the nominee for 2012, but I truly believe she wouldn’t win. It’s as simple as that. I want fresh blood. I’ve seen John Thune in action and he wouldn’t give the press the ammunition that Sarah has given.

I want to WIN. I don’t think Sarah can do that. They’re are too many lazy people in America today who want government handouts. In economic crisis they vote for Democrats. It’s why FDR had four terms. When people get scared about the economy they vote Democrat. When people are scared about foreign policy issues like terrorism they vote Republican.


OK, I can accept that.

It's your opinion, even though you really have no proof that John Thune would not give the Press as much ammunition as Sarah would.

You can't prove that assertion, but you have a right to state it.
256 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve been paying attention to politics for many years. I have a record on this website of predicting what the presidency of George Bush would look like, written in posts from 1999 to 2000, that turned out to be scarily correct. Unfortunately, he got the nomination anyway, and as it ended up I had to vote for him, both in 2000 and 2004. However, I read his character, his strengths and weaknesses, correctly in 1999, and my reading was that, although he was a nice enough fellow, he was unqualified for the intellectual challenges of the presidency. I was right, and his failed presidency is the proof.

Palin is less qualified than Bush was, far less.

It may give you satisfaction to pretend that only “kool-aid drinkers” and “dupes” would find fault with Sarah Palin. Knock yourself out. But the reality is, Palin, because she doesn’t have Bush’s family tree, is not only far less qualified than he was, she’s also far less electable.

I’m not at all worried that she’ll make it to the White House, a luxury I didn’t have with George Bush. She has no shot whatsoever.


257 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:47 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: goldwaterepublican

voter fraud is alive and well.


258 posted on 07/02/2009 11:44:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just thinking there ought to be a ‘BARF ALERT’ with this #0R$E$#!T hit piece thinly disguised as “analysis”.

The writer could not think his way out of a wet paper sack; downing the viability of the gay rights/marriage issues for Conservatives - right on the heels of so many states passing ballot measures into law prohibiting the licensing or recognition of gay marriages - and those measures surviving the scrutiny of )activist liberal) State supreme courts...

This calls to mind an image of a boxer on the mat with two black eyes and a bloody broken nose, slurring out “ D’you give up yet?”

And so the GOP should abandon all hope of anything other than an appeal to a “narrow base” on the basis of issues of social conservatism...?!

ROTFLM*AO!!

Please - nobody write to these idiots to point out their errors to them - it will be so much sweeter to see the surprised looks of unexpected defeat on their faces!

A.A.C.


259 posted on 07/02/2009 11:44:34 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: goldwaterepublican
i went to a mccain/PALIN rally (mostly palin) i dont think there was a conservative on the planet who stayed home. i fact i think palin drew a larger conservative vote than bush...but it still isnt enough to win...and for the sake of america id rather win.

It is foolish to think it will be the same outside the McCain constraints....

260 posted on 07/02/2009 11:44:51 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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