Air Force Denies Request for Flyover at Christian Festival....

An Idaho community had secured an Air Force flyover for its local festival every year for more than 40 years, organizers say, but this year, the Air Force turned the request down over the festival's religious focus.

The God and Country Family Festival in Nampa, Idaho, applied to the Pentagon for the flyover but was denied in an e-mail, board member Patti Syme told KTBV. Syme said the e-mail from a defense official informed her the Pentagon prohibited support of special interest groups.

"I called him immediately and just said, you know hey we've been doing this for 42 years, we've had flyovers, what is the problem?" Syme told KTBV. "And he said, well we have looked up your Web site and everything on your Web site seemed to focus on Christianity, ministry booths. And he said, in fact, ma'am it sounds like it focuses on Christianity. And he said, in fact, it would be great to go to, in fact, if I personally, could come I would, but we can't endorse such an endeavor, so they couldn't do the flyover."

You’re making no sense.

Choosing to not favor one religion discriminates against all?

I’m sorry, but that’s nuts.

Please sleep on it and re-read your comment. Perhaps you will see the logical inconsistency.

You may want to ask yourself why, after 219 years of the Supreme Court in existence and countless court decisions favoring separation church and state, you still persist in thinking church and state together are just fine.

There’s a reason why my position is consistent with the Constitution and yours is not. And that reason is not because there’s been a centuries-long conspiracy against TheBattman. The reason is I’m in the right and you are just plain wrong.

If you want to mix state and religion, there are any number of theocracies you can associate with.

Me? I’d rather remain a proud American.

You’re making no sense.

Choosing to not favor one religion discriminates against all?

The discrimination is against the concept of religion itself.

I am not so sure why it is so hard for you to see the discrimination when you nix attendance because of religious content but are willing to approve attendance because of a lack of it. By definition that is discrimination against gatherings with religious content.

Imagine if during Katrina the Coast Guard had refused to pick up religious people or evacuate churches or mosques and instead only agreed to pick up secular people or atheists on non-religious roofs in order to preserve separation of church and state.

That is an extreme example of the idea that government cannot provide certain services to a group of people because they have certain beliefs.

The current example is less extreme of course, but it is the exact same principle being applied. We will not provide overflights to you because you are espousing some religious beliefs....but we will gladly overfly any event that is not espousing religious beliefs.

That is discrimination against those espousing religious beliefs of all sorts.

In that world, the Air Force is free to entertain or support a Planned Parenthood event....or a Furry convention....but not support a tribute event for Air Force Chaplains....or a non-denominational prayer event for aviators. Such was never ever the intent of the founders.

thanks...that makes two English history sorts here eh?

i actually have been studying THOTESP by Sir Winston...probably will take me two years to read it all in spurts

the first volumes interest me more frankly

i’m surprised by that somewhat erroneous timeline by Jefferson, most Saxon common law came from the Romanized Britons but real serious common law in England came with William and his Plantagent House..cemented of course by the rascal John under pressure from his leaping lords.

Regards

the UK fascinates me, it’s in my DNA code...been to many major sites there and lived in NW London for a bit

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