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Vanity | July 8th, 2009 | TaraP

[driftdiver]

“Apple introduced the Macintosh (Mac) in 1984.”

And yet it nearly died because it was so bad. Oh and it was based on a version of Unix created in the mid 70’s.

” OsX has been around for fewer than 10.”

So you’re saying its not all that well tested and vested?

” How many computers is Bill Gates and crew making these days?”

They don’t make any computers, they just sell more software than anyone else. They get other people to do the low profit margin stuff

[Swordmaker]

A tired old mantra that really doesn’t matter anymore. The main goal today is theft of valuable information or remote control of your PC. It is not destruction of your machine.

Those goals are easily achievable with an unsophisticated user base.

One of the advantages of the Mac is the difficulty that hackers have in gaining access to it to steal valuable information from the users or to gain remote control of it. Find some of those supposed 20,000 Macs in the Macbot that was claimed to exist... without any proof at all. Please provide me with the lists of all those unsophisticated Macs users that have their Macs controlled by malicious hackers. Can they fall for phishing and Pharming expeditions? Can they be tricked into installing one of the fourteen of so Mac OS X trojans in the wild? Probably... but you might be surprised. The various trojans for OS X have been widely publicized and most Mac users are very aware of them.

And back to your worm/virus argument. As long as you can get a user to click “ok” you can do anything you want. As more unsophisticated users buy MACs you will have more machines compromised. As more machines are compromised the threat will increase.

There you might be right... as more and more Windows users bail on Microsoft and buy Macs. However, we're still talking trojans... not drive by downloads from your email. And it takes MORE than merely clicking "OK" to install such malware on a Mac.

[Swordmaker]

And yet it nearly died because it was so bad.

And your experience with this "bad"ness is exactly what? The OS is not what nearly killed Apple... it was management decisions by a sugar water salesman...

So you’re saying its not all that well tested and vested?

It is very well tested and "Vetted." Being mostly open source, the code is available for anyone to look into and find security holes. The core UNIX has been tested by exposure to the wild for 40+ years and has undergone fire many times... and the fires have long since been put out. About 270 million man/computer years of exposure of Mac OS X over the past 9 years (OS X Server beta was released in 2000). We are going on 9 years with ZERO viruses, ZERO worms, ZERO spyware in the wild. That is an impressive record. Windows cannot touch it.

However, this is a Windows PC thread... so let's drop the Mac comments. OK?

[driftdiver]

“That is an impressive record. Windows cannot touch it. “

And yet windows is on 90%+ of the desktops around the world.

“However, this is a Windows PC thread... so let’s drop the Mac comments. OK?”

yes it is a windows thread, and despite your attempts at damage control I was not the one to introduce Mac to the thread. You mac lovers did that because you cannot stand to miss an opportunity to attack the industry leader.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

You mac lovers did that because you cannot stand to miss an opportunity to attack the industry leader.

I have had dozens of computers, most of them PCs (Dell, HP, Gateway, Compaq, etc...) Most of those are all in the junk heap.

The ancient boat anchor Powermac 9500 still works, the G4 still works, and my new i-mac is slicker than snot.

The proprietary hardware and compatibility issues with network protocols are my biggest complaint on some PCs. Networking a Mac on a PC network is a pain in the colon. I hate the Microsoft software licensing for client computers. I think it is a rip off.

(I actually liked the old Windows NT systems even though they wouldn't support FAT32 files.)

Dell is pretty good about their non-proprietary hardware and that is why I still have the old Poweredge server.

But overall, the Mac is, by far, my favorite for user friendly computers. I almost never have a Mac user asking me to "fix" their computer. All my friends with PCs are constantly asking me to help them, which I usually do for the free few beers they provide, since server networks and computer repair are not my occupation.

Most of the network "engineers" I have worked with in the semiconductor industry were good people, but a lot of them had trouble configuring a simple NT Workstation and since that is not what I was being paid to do, I gladly let them stew in their frustration.

I will also say customer service at Apple is the best in the business for the casual computer user.