Posted on 07/10/2009 9:08:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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A child will internalize the standards and expectations others set for him or her. Lowering the standards for black students causes them to lower the standards for themselves, which translates into lax study habits, low effort, low motivation, and low achievement.
When black people do well academically, they’re given
special awards that pretty much say “You succeeded DESPITE being black.” What message does this send to other black students? That their color is an obstacle to achievement?
They are burdened with debt for an education that they can not use. There are the self-esteem issues, as well.
Also..These students may have been very successful in other areas of the economy and in business. They may have been franchise owners, small business owners, managers of their local community bank, or been leaders in other ways in their communities.
Admitting black students into programs for which they are not qualified robs this student of other opportunities, and deprives the black community of leadership.
Blacks won't study. They won't work. I'd rather have a class full of black students from anywhere in the world... except for the US.
Black Americans are raised with a chip on their shoulder and the racism of low expectations. At the end of the day the overwhelming majority of black students will not put forth anywhere near the effort required to be successful.
You asked on an earlier thread of mine about Ricci with respect to affirmative action for admission school from the viewpoint of a prospective surgical patient. I was thinking about the viewpoint of Ricci. I was a white, male, Vietnam veteran. I got good scores on both iterations of the Medical College Admission Test that I took, the 1962–1977 version and the subsequent 1977–1991 version. The latter I took twice, IIRC, scoring 59 and 61 when the test had six sections. It appears scores on that test could range from 6-90. The newest version ranges from 3-45.
Needless to say, I feel I was victimized like Ricci. I finally discovered there were osteopathic medical schools, NYCOM 91.
Fine. Whenever they might need surgery, I suggest it be performed by affirmative action recipients.
After all, like they say, the surgery will get done regardless of the qualifications of the surgeon performing it.
When, exactly, did we turn academia over to insane people?
If some of the stats I’ve read are accurate, they would compose about 70% of the graduate students in the hard sciences in California colleges if the colleges didn’t discriminate against them.
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I was talking with a buddy from the west coast recently and he mentioned something similar. Wish I could recall the school, it was one of the hard science schools. Anyway, the dean reported that if they accepted only based on merit the entire school would be Asian.
Perhaps the 15-point IQ spread is responsible for this gap?
If that turns out to be the case, telling them to study harder will be about as useful as midnight basketball and fancy new high-tech school buildings. What do we do then?
In the 1960s when the left started taking over academia.
What is a black way of fighting a fire?
It will take two or three more generations for African Americans to assimilate into the mainstream. The Republican philosophy has always promoted equality, assimilation and upward mobility. The Democrat philosophy has always promoted an implied inferiority and the perpetuation of a separate “black community.” This hasn’t changed for almost 150 years.
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They're correct, Richard. Top-level Affirmative Action @$$oles in government have rolodexes, or assistants with rolodexes, who can send out the small amount of real work that might cross their desks to an army of consultants.
A great deal of "government work" consists of consultants preparing presentations for AAA's, who will present to other AAA's, whose consultants will of course, respond in kind.
An amazing amount of government policy is made in just this way.
Try going into a burning building with one of those affirmative action hires. Biggest frickin cowards in the world.
When we made teaching an occupational exemption from the draft.
Good answer.
Often times the arguments against racial preferences as a component of affirmative action policies devolve into efficacy arguments as to whether or not minorities are harmed by lowering standards and shaving points on entrance exams. While these arguments are important and worthwhile to explore, the most important argument against racial preferences are the sheer injustice and immorality of them, based upon constitutional grounds and our Judeo-Christian tradition of elevating individuals and providing governments to protect their rights. The injustices done to black people in the past were monumental and wrong. An acknowledgment of those injustices is entirely correct and important to an understanding of history. As a matter of law they have just about been entirely rectified today. Those past injustices do not justify injustices to entire group of people today, particularly white males and Asians. We conservative should not be hesitant in pointing out the sheer immorality of racial preferences because we’re afraid of being browbeaten by cultural Marxists who play the race identity, and historical guilt card incessantly.
Given the extent of Communist infiltration into the civil rights movement in the 1960s, is not at all surprising that much of the legacy of the civil rights movement is an extensive use of the tools of the cultural Marxist.
That is the translation of economic Marxism into cultural terms. The cultural Marxist appropriates what should rightfully belong to a better qualified individual through racial preferences in affirmative-action, as opposed to outright economic appropriation from those same individuals.
We are just about prohibited from pointing this out due to the fact that ending de facto segregation and unjust discrimination was a noble objective. It’s just that many of the people who were enlisted and who volunteered in the effort to accomplish this had other more nefarious goals in mind, mainly the restructuring of the civil society through social engineering.
And as to the efficacy arguments, most of the schools that the black firefighters attended were undoubtedly in inner-city schools that are run by Democrats and liberals through organizations like the National Education Association. These ignorance factories largely refuse to entertain the notion of school choice, charter schools, educational vouchers, and are beholden to teachers unions would put the best interests of their students aside in favor of union friendly policies. Satisfied with churning out students who are largely incapable of competing on cognitive tests, they are content to have affirmative action magic wands waved to correct what they see as “disparate impact” while endeavoring to wholly remove that impact from the results of the inferior educational establishments that they administer.
The effects of this loose conspiracy by the liberal education establishment might not be so baleful were it not for the cultural destruction wrought by the welfare state that these sell same like-minded liberals imposed on the black community in the 1960s with Lyndon Baines Johnson’s Great Society. Taken together it has been a recipe for absolute and utter educational disaster
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