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Ricci and the Skills Gap - What leads to unequal results between blacks and whites isn’t racism.
City Journal ^ | 7 July 2009 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 07/10/2009 9:08:47 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/10/2009 9:08:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

.....a main cornerstone of the anglo-european/judeo-christian culture is it’s reverence for education...not all cultures share that trait.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 9:13:22 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: neverdem
Since the ‘60’s law on desegregation for schools, I thought the black children had as much a chance to excel as the white children.... same teachers... same classes... what's the deal here? There are as many white children who come from poor one parent homes as blacks in most public city schools... and the white children do better.... what's the deal here?

When the Asian young college students do better than their white counterparts, one doesn't hear DISCRIMINATION because we know that their culture values education and strives to learn. Again, what's the deal here?

Are these people saying that blacks can't learn? or black’s have an entitlement feeling, and won't learn.... this isn't a generalization... only this particular group of firefighters.... let's all a spade a spade for a change... instead of dumbing down everything to the lowest demonimator of a third world country so everyone can feel equal in being stupid.

3 posted on 07/10/2009 9:22:19 PM PDT by bareford101 (obamanation's United States of Wonderland, but God still holds the reins)
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To: neverdem

I’ve dealt with many of the race hustlers, and they don’t give a flip whether anyone can actually perform a job duty. They operate on the premise that the job will get done regardless of the qualifications of the individuals performing it.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 9:22:43 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: bareford101
When the Asian young college students do better than their white counterparts, one doesn't hear DISCRIMINATION because we know that their culture values education and strives to learn. Again, what's the deal here?

From what I understand, they're discriminated against more than just about anyone, as most of the orientals have never gotten into the race baiting industry. If some of the stats I've read are accurate, they would compose about 70% of the graduate students in the hard sciences in California colleges if the colleges didn't discriminate against them.

5 posted on 07/10/2009 9:25:27 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: STONEWALLS

That is so true. And so sad. I have been to homes of white meth heads and addicts and people who have chickens running thru the trailer, and there is still pride when little junior brings home an A. Some black homes? An aversion to it. Things are changing as more and more blacks hit middle class status, but IMHO, blacks have to address this “acting white” thing that too many black kids do to the other black kids that are trying to get ahead. This is not something white America can fix. Bill Cosby says about the same thing, FWIW.

parsy, who calls it like he sees it.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 9:25:38 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Richard Kimball
My sons both had scholarships to Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh, and I was astonished at graduation to see all the Asian young people gathering up all the accolades... they were just so smart!!! It was from this experience, that I wrote what I did. I did not know of discrimination against them.... I just stood in awe.... I thought my sons were smart, but wow, those Asian students just took everything that required exceptional study habits and brains!
7 posted on 07/10/2009 9:28:37 PM PDT by bareford101 (obamanation's United States of Wonderland, but God still holds the reins)
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To: neverdem

I worked with a young Spanish kid once who had graduated from High School and could not read. I asked him how he passed all the test and he said his teacher read all the questions to him and he answered them verbally.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 9:31:03 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: bareford101
“There are as many white children who come from poor one parent homes as blacks in most public city schools...”

This is not a true statement. A majority of the large public schools are predominantly black. Many of the major cities in the Midwest and northeast are almost exclusively black or at least black and Hispanic. In many of these systems the amount of white students is less than 10%.

The whites have generally abandoned the inner cities or at least the inner city schools. The blacks also have the largest amount of out of wedlock births at 70% +, this is more than twice the rate of white out of wedlock births. These are problems in the Black society. This leads to a massive amount of under performance in all aspects of the Black society. The problem is self inflicted. But it is a problem none the less.

12 posted on 07/10/2009 9:41:47 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: bareford101

Wow! I’m impressed. The University of Texas agreed to let me in if I promised not to tell anyone.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 9:42:22 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: SpineSurgeon

I read a paper a while back about the success of a program to increase the number of black doctors. The basic conclusion was that individuals who had scored at least 900 on the SAT were more likely to make it through medical school than those who had not.

I ask you, WTH is any medical school doing admitting students with SAT scores well below the national average???

I realize the med school doesn’t see the SAT but I know enough about this business to tell you that the chance of someone with a 900 or less SAT having good MCAT scores is slim to none.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 9:44:32 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: neverdem

Powerful article.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 9:45:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: neverdem

Hey, if you genuinely care to know what accounts for these differences, consult the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. The illustrious preacher has a sound (!) thesis on this subject.


16 posted on 07/10/2009 9:46:08 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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“I looked up the stats for white applicants with the ranges listed above. 5.8% were admitted. 5.8% of white applicants and 36.1% of black applicants with the exact same stats.”

Were you able to find the Stats on Obama’s grades? Oh, that is right, nobody has.

17 posted on 07/10/2009 9:47:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: neverdem
The thing that gets me is this is a life or death job,just like the Police and they want to promote on bases of race instead of who is better suited to lead.
18 posted on 07/10/2009 9:50:17 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 (This is not a free ride. Become a monthly donor like me.)
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To: SpineSurgeon

Speaking from personal experience here: when you don’t have good grades in college, this means you haven’t mastered the material, and if you haven’t mastered the material you can’t possibly have a basis with which to learn the far more difficult material offered in med school. You need that basis or you aren’t going to absorb the subject matter that physicians need to know! How people with no background can successfully sit for their exams, I don’t know. It’s very troubling. Do they flunk out, or are they passed along? Do state boards and specialty boards pass them, too?


19 posted on 07/10/2009 9:52:18 PM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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