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Democrats Want to Teach You to Die With Dignity
Red State ^ | Monday, July 20th

Posted on 07/20/2009 11:56:13 PM PDT by Bobibutu

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I think, given that the member of Congress who drafted H.R. 3200 read and take seriously people like Klien, Yglesias, and Singer, we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The section, titled “Advanced Care Planning Consultation” requires senior citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse practitioner to discuss dying with dignity.

The section requires that they talk to their doctor, not a lawyer, about living wills, durable healthcare powers of attorney, hospice, etc. Given the progressive intelligentsia already being on the record in favor of euthanizing the elderly, it is no small leap to see where the Democrats are headed with this.

Legally forcing senior citizens to have “death with dignity schedules every few years is just another way to say the government wants to make sure seniors know it is time to commit suicide to save the system money.

And saving any medical system through encouraged deaths of the elderly or unborn is not a medical system worth having. The Hippocratic Oath requires doctors to “do no harm.” That’s meant toward the patient, not the costs to the government.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhohealthcare; democrats; healthcare; hr3200; liberalfascsim; liberalism; mittcare; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; romneycare; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 07/20/2009 11:56:13 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
Democrats Want to Teach You to Die With Dignity

Them first.

2 posted on 07/21/2009 12:02:15 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: Bobibutu

It’s kind of fascinating how the libs are so into letting the government have a say in how long people live, and under what conditions they should be euthanized. I rarely see a lib as intensely interested in a topic as they are in this.


3 posted on 07/21/2009 12:04:50 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Losing my job due to Oconomy.)
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To: SIDENET

You beat me to it.


4 posted on 07/21/2009 12:06:21 AM PDT by Califreak (I can't answer that in the abstract)
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To: Bobibutu

I have said it before

ObamaCare = RAID for seniors.

Maybe not you, not now. But - how about your folks?


5 posted on 07/21/2009 12:07:56 AM PDT by ASOC (Who is that fat lady? And why is she singing???)
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To: Bobibutu

6 posted on 07/21/2009 12:08:26 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Darkwolf377
It’s kind of fascinating how the libs are so into letting the government have a say in how long people live, and under what conditions they should be euthanized. I rarely see a lib as intensely interested in a topic as they are in this.

They just really dig death.

7 posted on 07/21/2009 12:09:39 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: potlatch

8 posted on 07/21/2009 12:12:38 AM PDT by devolve (- - Take your stinking czars off me you damned skinny Kenyan! - -)
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To: SIDENET

I think it speaks to their fear of religion and the absence of it in their lives—I write this as an atheist. Liberals both fear and hate religion, but they all have this thirst for the control they are always complaining about that exists in the church. In its place, they want the state to be The Authority—a kind of church where THEY get to decide the rules. And their fervor over offering up one’s loyalty to their “religion” is scary.


9 posted on 07/21/2009 12:12:57 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Losing my job due to Oconomy.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Every time I think of that passage in the house bill and think about... I am reminded of Logans Run in reverse.. only you have to "run" when you achieve the age of 65.
10 posted on 07/21/2009 12:17:17 AM PDT by Kitanis
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To: Darkwolf377

Libs want to be able to control the *entire* life cycle of human beings. From deciding who gets to be born and who not, to who is ready for state administered death (not for committing a crime, mind you) to everything in between. Liberalism is about control. They look at the “masses” as laboratory animals in need of control - who are to be ‘birthed’, fed and taken care of and finally killed.


11 posted on 07/21/2009 12:21:41 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Bobibutu

Put Soros Down he is “old”.

Dems first,


12 posted on 07/21/2009 12:24:48 AM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: Kitanis
I am reminded of Logans Run in reverse

What do you mean "reverse" ? Is 65 instead of 30 "reverse" ?

I had a dream last night, but I forget what it was - Camper Van Beethoven

13 posted on 07/21/2009 12:27:52 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Bobibutu

ping.


14 posted on 07/21/2009 12:28:37 AM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Bobibutu
President Barak Obama...

Bringing Natural Selection to a healthcare program near you.

15 posted on 07/21/2009 12:32:18 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Barak Obama: Pontificator in Chief and Poster Child for the Peter Principle)
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Given the debate over Terri Schiavo, I don’t think Democrats are the only ones in favor of this. I fought with people over this culture of Life vs Death right here on this board. Whether it’s abortion, embryonic stem cells, the disabled, the elderly w/assisted suicide, or genetic manipuation it all revolves around the same issue. Far too many on both aisles are committed to death so as to bring themselves comfort.


16 posted on 07/21/2009 12:32:43 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: SIDENET
The LORD says:

Pro 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Do the libs ever prove this truth out.

17 posted on 07/21/2009 12:41:00 AM PDT by Bellflower (The end of this age is near but the beginning of the next glorious one is coming!)
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To: Califreak

Yes, I agree that some real-life demonstrations would provide some of the best teaching moments that we could hope to find. I figure 650,000 would be a good beginning number...


18 posted on 07/21/2009 12:50:18 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: Bobibutu
requires senior citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse practitioner to discuss dying with dignity.

and to demonstrate leadership in this example of selflessness, of 'not being a burden to your children', our entire Congress will make their appointments tomorrow, right?

19 posted on 07/21/2009 12:50:27 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: Soul Seeker
tu vero dubitabis et indignabere obire - Lucretius

And will you hesitate, will you be indignate to die?

20 posted on 07/21/2009 12:54:13 AM PDT by dr_lew
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