Posted on 07/21/2009 6:23:32 AM PDT by jmcenanly
I’m dying to know what they plan to do with the Amish, who are exempted from Social Security because their religion prohibits the owning of any type of insurance whatsoever.
I don't believe that's true, but if that's really the case, I'm am hereby Amish, effective immediately.
I cal the “do-gooder fascists” “mama totalitarians.” They come from all over the political spectrum and will force you to do the right thing for your own good, even if they must infringe on your unalienable rights.
But, remember, it’s for your own good!
I lived near an Amish community for a long time. I believe this issue raised it’s head during the Clinton Admin. and was resolved to the satisfaction of the Amish.
Let me do more checking into this. I’ll be back there in person in August.
But I’m fairly sure that the Amish are exempt from it. Because it is a direct, to the heart, stab into their religion.
“different” from mine, as in socialistic?
Do you know what kind of debt we would have without insurance?
We would have freemarket competition in healthcare, with all the benefits that freemarket competition gives... consumer choice, practical, low cost, innovative technology.
Someone, PLEASE, show me ONE elected representive that is saying the whole problem with healthcare is it's fundamental lack of free market competition.
Is that what you perceive? Must make it fact....
I haven’t met you yet. Are you a member of the Free Republic ideological conformity police?
Wassup.
Don't compare Becky with the Amish. The Amish through their church each pay into a pool each month and that money is kept by the church and is paid to the hospital when a member needs it. Many Amish sects are now taking out catasphrohic health plans with say a $50,000 deductible or higher.
That is all you need-2 for a group medical plan. A group health company cannot decline you for coverage like a individual health carrier can. They can charge higher rates but you might be surprised. I would suggest a high deductible plan but a plan that covers R/X that is not subject to the deductible.
Thank you for your helpful advice.
“– I’m one of the nearly 50 million Americans who don’t have health insurance. I don’t want it, either. “
The Obama’s new “Civilian Security Force” will kill you.
If any reasonable health care plan is outlawed, people will make a way. This would create a medical/ pharmaceutical black market.
Isn’t that what the libs have been saying all along about abortion? They contend that when “safe” legal abortions are outlawed, women will turn to the “back alleys.”
Well, if Obamacare become the law, I’m willing to let some “back alley” doctor set my bones, rather than waiting for months for treatment.
“Someone, PLEASE, show me ONE elected representive that is saying the whole problem with healthcare is it’s fundamental lack of free market competition”
TORT REFORM! TORT REFORM! TORT REFORM!
AAAUUUUGGGHHH!!!!!! Mal-practice insurance for health care providers is just hideous!!!
And the expense of CYA procedures so they don’t get sued, and, and, and.........
Obama has assured the Ass Hats at the AMA there will be no tort reform. Isn’t that precious?
You know what? Stop with that BS. It isn't your call if someone has ins or not. People didn't use to have to have medical ins in this country, Medicare changed that. If Becky doesn't want ins she doesn't have to get it and you, and others like you, who scream and rant at others trying to force them to get ins because that is what "YOU WANT" them to do is just as bad as the government telling them they have to have it. STFU about someone else and learn what the he** being a conservative is about.
It’s a tricky issue.
Sure, she’s in her rights to decide not to have insurance,
IF the rest of us aren’t forced to pay for the consequences of that decision. That’s the way it is/should be for all choices like this.
I love, love, love my HSA.
$350/mo, $5700 deductable (significant discount on negotiated prices for services) 100% thereafter and $8M limit for each of us. ( 2 adults, near 50y.o., 1 smoker, prostate cancer survivor)
The problem I see it is that people don’t want to pay for their own insurance.
You can even have a driver’s license and not pay auto insurance. If fact, you can have a company car.
If Becky pays for her treatment out of her own pocket or if she has no money she is then forced to go without and she literally DIES I have no problem then with her choice. I am sick and tired of paying for deadbeats.
You are the one sounding like a liberal. When the "average becky" needs that 100-$250k + treatment you know darn well it be thrown back on the taxpayers or the other insured people who took responisbility for their actions-their premiums will increase.
There are way to many deadbeat Becky's out there.
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