Posted on 07/21/2009 9:23:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
“They’ve chosen Certificate No. 151 1961-010641”
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That number doesn’t work.
On the 2 long form BC’s I have in my possession, mine and my son’s, the file or certificate numbers are not in that format.
Just for reference, one certificate is from ‘68. The other from ‘88.
First form states: State File number. 151
Second two numbers are the last 2 numbers from year born. Then there is a space, then 6 numbers in a row.
example: 68 010XXX (of course x’s represent real numbers I won’t put out on the net.)
The BC from 88 has the same type of # as the ‘68 one.
Again, I have no idea where “they” got that certificate number. The 1961 after the 151 is not how Hawaii lists the year born.
At least not on mine. And I know the two I have are real.
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That number doesn’t work.
Thanks for that data, Aurorales. I'm relieved.
Regarding the certificate no. you listed: 151 1961-010641.
Just thinking out loud.
I have been told that the numbers are sequential as each certificate is printed.
I’m guessing a new set of six numbers are started at the beginning of each year.
So if we believe the certificate number, in 1961, his certificate is showing in some way the number of babies born that year.
As of Aug 4.
Mine is in ‘68. My numbers are 01017X. My birth is in Sept.
Shouldn’t my birth certificate number be higher (give or take) in the last three digits given that I was born a month later in the year?
I mean that is over a 450 negative difference.
Maybe I am overblowing the number thing, and please someone correct me if I am looking at it wrong.
Certificate No. is on the Fact Check photo posted up-thread at #13.
I guess I shouldn’t have stated so boldly that the number doesn’t work.
I don’t ever want to post incorrect info regarding this issue. It just mucks up the works.
It is true that the numbers on my certificates are listed differently regarding the year born. That is true.
But as always, we REALLY NEED TO SEE THE ORIGINAL LONG FORM BC! to know the truth.
See my post above. The last six numbers don’t look right to me.
My son was born in ‘88 in Dec. His last six numbers are very large. My guess is because it is the end of the year and of course many births are recorded.
Why are Barry’s last numbers in Aug. so much bigger than mine in Sept.?
It just isn’t right. Common sense would tell you that more babies would be born in Hawaii in ‘68 than ‘61.
Again, anyone let me know if I am way off base.
I don’t know what the 6-digit sequence of numbers after the year of birth reflects.
Not to worry. I won't hang you for coming to an incorrect conclusion (though, it may not be). We've probably all made that mistake at least once while trying to wrap our wits around the bc issue.
I read here a couple of days back that someone is working on finding Hawaiian birth certificates from the same time period as Obama's, to compare key details like the serial numbering.
All it will take is for a handful of people who hold these birth certificates to contact the poster. We ought to see something soon on this.
There's a Freeper who has put the word out that he's looking for people who hold Hawaiian birth certificates from the same time period as Obama claims to have been born there.
Hope to hear something on that soon. It may shed light on the numbering Hawaii used on birth certs at the time.
Ok, false alarm, in that case. The document posted on FactCheck is purportedly of Obama's Certification of Live Birth - NOT his Birth Certificate.
The COLB is a computer-generated abstract of the basic facts of a person's birth. It's basically a "short form" birth certificate, if you will.
It could have been ordered and produced at any time. Obama's COLB has a 2007 date "stamped" on it, I believe.
The number on that document would probably only have been assigned to the COLB. The original long form birth certificate may not have even been marked with a serial number. I'd have to check my own to see if it has one, but if memory serves, it doesn't.
The original long form BC does have a serial number.
The numbers I was talking about above were from 2 long form certificates.
Oh by the way, thank you for the info above on someone gathering BC’s from the 1961 time period.
That would be interesting info to dig into.
Yes, I've now discovered that to be true. Someone posted a clear photograph of a Hawaiian bc on FR last night, and there is a serial number in the upper right hand corner.
The bc was from 1962, and showed the father's race as Caucasian, not American. Obama's fake COLB listed his father's race as African.
Now, if the COLB posted on the internet by the Obama campaign were actually ordered from the state of Hawaii, all of the information on it would have been taken directly from his long form bc. It's highly unlikely that the father's race is listed as "African" on that document.
The kids in my family were born between '53 and '63 in California. On every one of our birth certificates, our father is listed as "Negro".
Have you heard that the jpeg image of Obama's COLB has been quietly taken down? Is it any wonder?
You are absolutely right about the “race” thing on the COLB.
That is just one of the many reasons why I know Barry is a lying sack of crap.
It has been said many times on FR, but needs to be repeated.
Ask anyone alive in ‘61, African was not used, said, or listed as a race of anyone.
Would have been black or negro.
Just that info alone tells me that COLB is not real.
Yeah, Barry's little gnomes screwed up big time on that (among other things).
Once the fake COLB was posted to the internet, there was no taking it back. I hear that the jpeg image has been pulled down now, but there are thousands of computers that have the initial posting screen captured.
If the MSM ever gets around to doing real investigative journalism in this case, they'll spot that little inconsistency, as well as all the rest.
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