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Hundreds of natural selection studies could be wrong, study shows
Penn State Live ^ | 30 March 2009 | Staff W. Riter

Posted on 07/22/2009 7:26:42 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Just curious: did you not read the article, or just not understand it?


21 posted on 07/22/2009 9:15:42 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

There is no theory called “Darwinism”. There are no “Darwinists”. As revolutionary as Darwin’s original theory was, even in its day it was never claimed to be the complete story of evolution. The theory has been greatly expanded upon in the 150 years since. Calling today’s theory of evolution “Darwinism” is like calling aviation “Wrightisim”

Not exactly the same word but it conveys the same idea.

Also you seemed to have overlooked this part of the article:

“The differences that make us human are more likely due to mutations that were favorable to us in the particular environment into which we moved, and these mutations then accumulated through time.”

As usual straw men and misdirection.


22 posted on 07/22/2009 9:18:13 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: org.whodat; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Another "Straw Man" post, scientist say!!! Put a name to the scientist and the study. And then another straw word, could, maybe might, meaningless conjectures. A fog maybe could fly if he had wings. LOL

What are you smoking?

23 posted on 07/22/2009 9:19:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: org.whodat; donna
Show me where this ,about to flunk out, doctoral student says scientists were wrong. He actually says they might also be correct and he wrong

He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. Can't take any chances that he might say something that'll get him in hot water.

24 posted on 07/22/2009 9:22:34 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

I didn’t see anywhere in the article that the methods in question were used to prove evolution, did you?


26 posted on 07/22/2009 9:25:33 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Not to worry. They won’t let insignificant details like this hurt their theory.

For that matter, they won’t let ANYTHING hurt their theory.

But it sure is fun watching them try to prevent it.


27 posted on 07/22/2009 9:30:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 07/22/2009 9:31:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I am laughing at the scientific orthodoxy...

Muuuaaaahahahahahahahaaa !!!

29 posted on 07/22/2009 9:38:23 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Ira_Louvin; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

==“The differences that make us human are more likely due to mutations that were favorable to us in the particular environment into which we moved, and these mutations then accumulated through time.”

I’d be curious to know why Ira’s Temple of Darwin sect considers the quote issued by the above Temple of Darwin sect as being comprised of “straw men and misdirection”???


30 posted on 07/22/2009 9:39:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"Of course, we would never say that natural selection is not happening..

Never, no never! Doubts have never crossed my mind! Please don't cancel my fellowship, please don't make my tenure difficult, please don't stop my funding, please don't look askance at my research!! Here, take my brain and lock it up for safekeeping in case I am ever tempted to think unacceptable thoughts!

31 posted on 07/22/2009 9:43:42 PM PDT by cookcounty (http://www.stumpedagain.wordpress.com)
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To: Ira_Louvin
The authors called into question the studies that indicated natural selection yet their faith in natural selection was not diminished by this evidence gone sour.

And in the quote you have “mutations” instead of natural selection is held responsible for “differences that make us human”.

Perhaps you should explain to the believers in evolution that there are no “Darwinists’ or “Darwinism” since they use those terms to refer to themselves.

Hello Strawman!

32 posted on 07/22/2009 9:48:26 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: wendy1946

Where DO you find your art work? Quite good!


33 posted on 07/22/2009 9:55:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: cookcounty
==Here, take my brain and lock it up for safekeeping in case I am ever tempted to think unacceptable thoughts!


34 posted on 07/22/2009 9:58:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ira_Louvin; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
There is no theory called “Darwinism”. There are no “Darwinists”. As revolutionary as Darwin’s original theory was, even in its day it was never claimed to be the complete story of evolution. The theory has been greatly expanded upon in the 150 years since. Calling today’s theory of evolution “Darwinism” is like calling aviation “Wrightisim”

Just to yank people's chain, because I'm mad at my wife's job for keeping her up past midnight the last couple of nights, and I want to take it out on somebody...

Is that why the site is called "Darwin Central"? /sarc>

(...and yes, it can be defended perfectly well by any one of a number of rationales. But seriously, the selective pedantry is just as much an error as quote-mining and completely incorrect definitions of technical terms.

Cheers!

35 posted on 07/22/2009 9:59:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: YHAOS

Beep!


36 posted on 07/22/2009 10:55:23 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Moonman62
I didn’t see anywhere in the article that the methods in question were used to prove evolution, did you?

Nope.

37 posted on 07/23/2009 12:27:44 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: metmom
What are you smoking??

The little Amish dude is a doctoral student, in a few years he may are may not be a real scientist.

38 posted on 07/23/2009 6:09:52 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
What’s an ‘evolutionist’? Was Albert Einstein a ‘relativist’?

Of course. Just like anyone that understands Newton's theory of gravity* is a "gravity-ist."

*remember, its just a "theory." It should be qualified as such whenever it is taught in public schools, and competing ideas about "intelligent falling" should be given equal time.

39 posted on 07/23/2009 8:24:12 AM PDT by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Wow, imagine that. A vibrant area of scientific study that's constantly being examined and revised by the peer review process is being examined and revised by the peer review process.

Of course, the reason you consider this to be scandalous is because there is no equivalent review process whatsoever when it comes to creationism. Accordingly, you fail to understand how it is exactly this kind of constant scientific examination that has made the theory of evolution incredibly robust and powerful tool for understanding the world around us over the last century.

Question: why is it that you often see articles about aspects of evolutionary theory being updated or re-considered, but never any similar articles about creationism?

Answer: Because creationists don't perform peer-reviewed research and creationism isn't science.

40 posted on 07/23/2009 8:39:03 AM PDT by Bosh Flimshaw
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