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Willie Horton Ad Creator: Birther Story ‘Not Dead’
Wash. Independent ^ | 7/27/09 | David Weigel

Posted on 07/27/2009 9:25:01 AM PDT by pissant

Conservative political strategist Floyd Brown, who gained a sort of immortality during the 1988 presidential campaign for an ad attacking Democratic candidate Mike Dukakis over the furloughing of a violent prisoner, has a new article up at WorldNetDaily attacking CNN for shutting down Lou Dobbs’ coverage of “birthers.” CNN president Jon Klein had credited CNN’s political researchers with debunking the story. Brown and his wife/co-author Mary dissent:

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If “the political researchers” at CNN had made more extensive inquiries than just repeating a public statement made on June 7, 2009, by the Department of Health spokesman to a local newspaper, they would have discovered that up until sometime between June 10 and June 18, 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands required applicants for special privileges to present copies of their original birth certificates. The DHHL regarded the shorter “Certification of Live Birth” as insufficient. Therefore the DHHL instructed all applicants to this program in the accepted procedure for obtaining copies of their original birth certificate from the Department of Health.

… Klein’s message to Dobbs’ staffers is deceptive or mistaken. Up until the middle of June 2009, Obama could “produce the original birth certificate.” And the Hawaiian Department of Health could produce it now if he authorized it to do so. The story is not “dead,” even though Klein has just tried to kill it. So Klein either lied to or misled Dobbs’ staffers or was lied to or misled by the Hawaiian Department of Health.

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If nothing else, this demonstrates the degree to which conservative political operatives have paid attention to this conspiracy theory, even after Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign (quietly) found the rumors easily to debunk.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; floydbrown; indonesianusurper; johnjay; kenyanusurper; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; obama; pakistaniusurper
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Weigel is making it his life mission to fight for Obama. Wonder why this 'libertarian' has such a vested interest that his entire career now is anti-birtherism.
1 posted on 07/27/2009 9:25:01 AM PDT by pissant
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2 posted on 07/27/2009 9:28:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: pissant

I really wish we would focus on the terrible job this POTUS is doing, not on a pipe dream conspiracy theory that is just that...a pipe dream.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/23/does-this-kill-the-obama-birth-certificate-myth/

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser

http://washingtonindependent.com/52625/mythbusting-the-honolulu-newspaper-birth-announcment

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


3 posted on 07/27/2009 9:30:42 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: pissant

Oh this a good find...a GREAT FIND...because it shows just why a short form isn’t good enough...

You can’t get special privileges with the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands by just using the short form..but hey..it is good enough to become President???

Anyone found a list of the “Special privileges?


4 posted on 07/27/2009 9:30:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: pissant

must see from Floyd Brown

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697


5 posted on 07/27/2009 9:31:31 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: pissant
even after Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign (quietly) found the rumors easily to debunk.

They didn't find them "easy" to debunk. They found them easy to ignore. As they found nearly every chink in Hussein's armor easy to ignore.

I might be willing to believe that Juan McAmnesty seriously looked at the BC issue *IF* he had evidenced any interest in *ANYTHING* about Hussein that was weak on.

Obama has/had a cornucopia of soft spots that McCain openly refused to even address, much less exploit. So, there is no reason I should believe that McCain gave a crap about the BC, anymore than anything else.

6 posted on 07/27/2009 9:33:29 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: SideoutFred

Have you found a copy of the illegal marriage license because I sure would like to see that?


7 posted on 07/27/2009 9:34:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: pissant

"I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no presidents!"

8 posted on 07/27/2009 9:35:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SideoutFred

Then focus on whatever your heart desires, ace.


9 posted on 07/27/2009 9:36:42 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Which “Willie Horton” Ad?

The Al Gore Ad that actually mentioned Willie Horton, or the RNC ad with the Prison and revolving door with racially mixed prisoners that did not mention Willie Horton, or a the third add;or the compilation of the two made by Michael Moore with an added (and incorrect in the original version) caption?

Which “Willie Horton” ad?


10 posted on 07/27/2009 9:40:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: pissant
I know the Willie Horton ad has an undeserved, poor public image. Brown also wrote "Slick Willie": Why America Cannot Trust Bill Clinton. Here's one of the four reviews the guardians at Amazon have allowed:
When I got this book in 1993, I found it boring and didn't read more than about five pages. I ran across it on my bookshelf again and read it. Floyd Brown really knew what he was talking about! Now, I can see how what he said has been played out in the past several years, and I wonder what will be next. I wish more people had read this book and listened then.
ML/NJ
11 posted on 07/27/2009 9:40:37 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: STARWISE

Weigal’s one man Obama juggling act continues...lol

Ping!


12 posted on 07/27/2009 9:42:35 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: pissant

The birther story should be dead. its a waste of effort.

Does anyone really think that a 19 year old would fly to
Mombasa to give birth, then return straightaway to Hawaii
to announce it in the papers?

Harping on this is stupid and a waste of time. he was not
born in Kenya; this would have come out years ago.
the courts have already spoken; they won’t hear it.

Go after Obamas record and utterances, there is the ammunition it takes to dethrone him. The birth issue is a
stupid side show without legs. It will go nowhere.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 9:43:26 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: pissant

Questions about Obama’s birth will not go away. All the secrecy, document purges, sealing of records and public information gone missing from multiple sources about Obama’s history only adds to the question of why. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to cover up anything about Obama’s past starting with his birth records and they would not be doing this without some reason.


14 posted on 07/27/2009 9:44:19 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: rahbert

Feel free to direct us to all the important threads you start going after the important issues. Be sure to ping us to those threads. thanks


15 posted on 07/27/2009 9:45:15 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rahbert

Well this is not your average woman. She is a rabid anti-American, lover of foreign men, etc. It would be reasonable to think that she wanted her son to NOT be born in America, according to her anti-American principles.


16 posted on 07/27/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: rahbert

And also, what makes you think it was her that placed the ad in the paper? Could it not have been another family member living there?


17 posted on 07/27/2009 9:47:46 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: RummyChick

Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- Kenya being a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.

Do you know who Barack Obama is? Is he NOT a natural born citizen? Check these out-

Original birth certificate - Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license - Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license - Not released
Soetoro adoption records - Not released
Besuki School application - Released
Punahou School records - Not released
Selective Service Registration - Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records - Not released
Passport (Pakistan) - Not released
Columbia College records - Not released
Columbia thesis - Not released
Harvard College records - Not released
Harvard Law Review articles - None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate - None
Medical records - Not released
Illinois State Senate records - None
Illinois State Senate schedule - Lost
Law practice client list - Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None

Now Hawaii officials are saying that all birth certificates were destroyed in 2001. But on October 31, 2008, this contrary statement-

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”


18 posted on 07/27/2009 9:50:37 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: pissant

are you attacking me or my point of view?


19 posted on 07/27/2009 9:51:02 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: rahbert

Neither. Just want to be sure you ping us to the important stories you post that otherwise are missed here on FR.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 9:52:58 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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