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Save Swine Flu Drugs for Younger Patients, Study Urges
Yahoo! News ^ | 28 July 2009 | Op-Ed

Posted on 07/28/2009 3:55:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7

"Antiviral drug treatment of swine flu may be wasted on the elderly and should be reserved for young people, suggest researchers who created a model of the effect of antiviral treatment on the spread of the H1N1 virus."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elderly; flu; h1n1; healthcare; influenza; obamacare; patients; rationing; study; swineflu; younger
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To: Gaffer

I feel just the same way. I’m going to speak to my DIL’s and sons about it, too.


21 posted on 07/28/2009 4:28:06 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: pray4liberty

Apparently not. Not enough mothers want to kill them.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 4:29:10 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: mpstan
Yes, I take Vit D all winter - and this year of the no-sun summer in the north east...
along with a host of other vits and supplements,,,
Star Anise? I hadn't heard about the connection to that. I will look into it.
23 posted on 07/28/2009 4:29:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mlizzy

Thanks. I’ll get some.


24 posted on 07/28/2009 4:33:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: maine-iac7

I think they give me Vit D in my dialysis fluid but I’ll check to make sure. I’m NEVER out in the sun.


25 posted on 07/28/2009 4:34:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: mlizzy
I take magnesium every day - in a magnesium-calcium mix.

You may want to research some possible negative side effects with oregano oil. (GOOGLE “oregano oil side effects”) .

I do use oregano - I grow myself - along with rosemary, thyme, sage, turmeric and even myrrh regularly in cooking, particularly in stir-fries and soups.

26 posted on 07/28/2009 4:35:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Marysecretary
. I wash my hands a lot during flu season and try not to kiss all my friends at church, LOL. This rationing medicine is very scary to me, too. I’m 70 and considered too old by some.

Yes. Along with my supplements and herbs, I carry a bottle of hand disinfectant with me everywhere...and I stay out of theaters and other overcrowded places when a 'bug' is going around.

I'm glad to see that some stores are starting to provide hand disinfectants at their entrances - particularly any store that we use shopping carts in.

And I got ya beat - I'm 74. The obamanites probably think I should be 'patriotic' and go off into the sunset.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 4:41:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

If you look at who has died from H1N1, it has been young adults with healthy immune systems.

The kids and old people who got it, did relatively well.

This virus apparently kills when the immune system goes into overdrive.

If your immune system is weak, it makes you sick but does not kill.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 4:55:50 PM PDT by staytrue
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I’m a bit overweight and they say that is a risk factor for this flu, but I’m afraid of their vaccine. I’ve never taken a flu shot before and taking a hastily thrown together one doesn’t seem like a good place to start.


29 posted on 07/28/2009 5:27:21 PM PDT by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lurker.)
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To: GeronL

All of you old people, SHUT UP, OBEY Obama, lie down, and DIE, NO MEDS FOR YOU!


30 posted on 07/28/2009 6:14:37 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)
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To: Jmouse007
All of you old people, SHUT UP, OBEY Obama, lie down, and DIE, NO MEDS FOR YOU!

My only hope is the Universal Law of Returns: What you do unto others -

the obomanible one, peel-face and gang will one day understand that - when their actions start catching up with them, tenfold. No one escapes HIS laws.

I just hope I'm still around to witness them getting their “Just Rewards” - like all dictators ultimately do.

31 posted on 07/28/2009 6:31:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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I’m a bit overweight and they say that is a risk factor for this flu, but I’m afraid of their vaccine. I’ve never taken a flu shot before and taking a hastily thrown together one doesn’t seem like a good place to start.


32 posted on 07/28/2009 7:03:46 PM PDT by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lurker.)
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To: maine-iac7; neverdem
The World Health Organization has issued a dire warning to health care officials, warning of the very real possibility that Swine Flu could mutate with the HIV virus into an air-borne version of AIDS.

Anne Schuchat, a scientist with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has seperately confirmed to Bloomberg News that Swine flu’s potential to reconfigure its genetic material and become more deadly is a “major concern” to those monitoring the virus outbreak.

Once infected with Swine Flu, the H1N1 virus “re-associates” with the genetics of other viruses in the same person. In the case of HIV, one possibility is the H1N1 virus could take-on the immune system killing effects of HIV and still retain its ability to be spread by air.

The WHO report notes how HIV has already mutated with tuberculosis in South Africa to make the disease more easily spreadable and harder to manage.

The H1N1 virus is noted for its unique mutation of genetic material from swine, human, and bird flues, a first of its kind ever seen by scientists and medical researchers.

HIV+ patients are especially susceptible to the Swine Flu because their immune systems are already compromised by the HIV virus, and need antivirals the most.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/05/03/swine-flu-makes-air-borne-aids/

Neverdem - you might want to look into this - might be why the MSM is making such a big deal out of this flu...

33 posted on 07/28/2009 7:11:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama's policies..have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.-Sowell)
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To: GOPJ
HIV+ people are especially susceptible to Swine Flu- immune systems are already compromised...

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/05/03/swine-flu-makes-air-borne-aids/

34 posted on 07/28/2009 7:16:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/05/03/swine-flu-makes-air-borne-aids/)
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To: GOPJ

thanks, bfl


35 posted on 07/28/2009 7:31:31 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: maine-iac7

So they want to kill off the kids first?

Typical death culture idea.

Send the vaccine to Iran where it can do something worth while. (and save Israel the trouble)


36 posted on 07/28/2009 7:33:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: maine-iac7
"I use natural preventive measures and haven't had any flu for decades..."

Exactly! - I haven't had the flu for close to 50 years, and I sure won't take any shot for anything.

37 posted on 07/28/2009 7:38:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: maine-iac7

Well, we could go to AK and sit on an ice floe until some polar bear has us for dinner. I, too, have disinfectant and put it on after I shop. Price Chopper, a local grocery store, now has disinfectant for that purpose so you can smear it on the handle before shopping. That’s the only place I’ve seen so far. Good idea. My husband is 74 as well.


38 posted on 07/28/2009 7:46:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: GOPJ; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...
Swine Flu Makes Air-Borne AIDS?

The first link is a good example of why you should be leary of what you find on the web. They can spread misinformation or confusion.

HIV patients at higher risk from flu, WHO says

micro ping

At times, I don't know who's more paranoid:

those who fear swine flu inordinately
those who fear all vaccines inordinately
those who fear a gov't cabal for a power grab.

The gov't didn't cover itself with honors during the swine flu epidemic in the 1970s. Who will they test this putative new swine flu vaccine on anyway? How many will have to get the vaccine to see if it is associated with Guillain–Barré syndrome?

39 posted on 07/28/2009 9:35:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: maine-iac7
There is a bit of logic in this. Older folks (like me) have been exposed and lived thru lot's of flues, we have built up a little resistance. Younger folks and children have not. That said, give it to who ever wants it (I don't) and can afford it.
40 posted on 07/28/2009 10:00:08 PM PDT by jpsb
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