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Liberals gag over health deal
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Posted on 07/29/2009 5:53:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Liberals gag over health deal By: Glenn Thrush July 29, 2009 08:20 PM EST

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spent half of Wednesday finalizing a deal with the Blue Dogs — and the other half quelling a brewing rebellion among progressives who think conservatives have hijacked health care reform.

Liberals, Hispanics and African-American members — Pelosi’s most loyal base of support — are feeling betrayed after House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) reached an agreement with four of seven Blue Dogs on his committee who had been bottling up the bill over concerns about cost.

The compromise, which still must be reconciled with competing House and Senate versions, would significantly weaken the public option favored by liberals by delinking reimbursement rates to Medicare.

“Waxman made a deal that is unacceptable,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), one of about 10 progressives who met repeatedly with Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) on Wednesday.

“We signed a pledge to reject any plan that doesn’t include a robust public option, and this plan doesn’t have a robust public option,” he added.

By sundown Wednesday, the outcry from the left had become so loud that Waxman was forced to scrap a scheduled markup of the compromise measure. He rescheduled the meeting for Thursday morning and convened a mass question-and-answer session for a deeply divided Democratic Caucus — a meeting that is expected to be extremely contentious.

Two months ago, most of the 80-plus members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus signed a pledge that they would oppose any health care bill that didn’t contain a bona fide public option that would compete with private insurers.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; bluedogs; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obamacare; pelosi; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

It’d be funny if they all just killed each other.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:15 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Sub-Driver

This is coming to you courtesy of the US Congress and the Fuhrer. It is for the “unwashed masses.” Politicians, of course, will have the best care your tax dollars can provide for them and their family. Please take the time to send this to everyone you know and ask that they please forward it to their address list. Pray that the truth gets out.

FACIST Health Care

THE ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE OBAMACARE
Written by Dr. Dave Janda
Thursday, 23 July 2009

As a physician who has authored books on preventative health care, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building in Washington last Friday (7/17).

The presentation was entitled Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention, and I was gratified that it was well received.

In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of “reform” as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid. Here is the link to the 1,018 page document:

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan. First, however, it should be clear that the same warning notice must be placed on The ObamaCare Plan as on a pack of cigarettes: Consuming this product will be hazardous to your health.

The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care. There is no focus on preventing health care need whatever. The plan’s method is the most inhumane and unethical approach to cutting costs I can imagine as a physician.

The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board “will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment.”

Translation.....if you are over 65 or have been recently diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated.....pick out your coffin.

Oh, you say this could never happen? Sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain.

The plan mandates that there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available in the future. It creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research, the purpose of which is “to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs.” Yes, this is to be the law.

The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology.

This “ coordinator” will “monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate.” It goes on to say.....”Doctors and hospitals not adhering to guidelines will face penalties.”

According to those in Congress, penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment.

So according to The ObamaCare Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union.

Section 102 has the Orwellian title, “Protecting the Choice to Keep Current Coverage.” What this section really mandates is that it is illegal to keep your private insurance if your status changes - e.g., if you lose or change your job, retire from your job and become a senior, graduate from college and get your first job. Yes, illegal.

When Mr. Obama hosted a conference call with bloggers urging them topressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible, a blogger from Maine referenced an Investors Business Daily article that claimed
Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance.

He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” Mr. Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.”

Then there is Section 1233 of The ObamaCare Plan, devoted to “Advanced Care Planning.” After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner.

This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, “how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate
hospice care.” It is no wonder The Obama Administration does not like my emphasis on Prevention. For Mr. Obama, prevention is the “enemy” as people would live longer.

I rest my case. The ObamaCare Plan is hazardous to the health of every American. After I finished my Capitol Hill presentation, I was asked by a Congressman in the question-answer session: “I’ll be doing a number of network interviews on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer.”

The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful. I told him that one word is FASCIST.

Then I added, “I hope you’ll have the courage to use that word, Congressman. No other word is more appropriate.”

Dr. Dave Janda, MD, is an orthopedic surgeon, and a world-recognized expert on the prevention of sports injuries, particularly in children. His website is http://www.noinjury.com/.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:38 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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Pop the Popcorn.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:46 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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“a deeply divided Democratic Caucus”

Excellent.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:58 PM PDT by muddler
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To: Sub-Driver

Let us pray they choke on this atrocity of a Marxist takeover....


6 posted on 07/29/2009 5:57:52 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Sub-Driver
The more people read it and look into it, the more it tanks. People must download, read, and educate themselves on this bill and then ABSOLUTELY HAMMER THEIR REPS MERCILESSLY over it during the recess.

Kill it dead.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

Donwload it, read it, study it, then hammer your reps over it and pass it on to all you know asking them to do the same.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

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7 posted on 07/29/2009 5:58:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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It is time to work hard to get rid of these so called Representatives.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 5:58:29 PM PDT by FreedBird
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The Democrat party disintegrating along “party” lines is sweet to watch. Here’s hoping the destruction is uncontained. I can only wish the worst (politically) for Nancy.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 5:59:45 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is good news. Let them fight it out amongst themselves.


10 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:36 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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Grab the pop corn, the remote, and a cool drink and enjoy. The next 30 days are going to be fun.
11 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:41 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Sub-Driver

YEA!!!! More infighting! MORE MORE!!!


13 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:38 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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Liberals, Hispanics and African-American members

Most of whom would be getting "FREE" health care that WE WOULD PAY FOR! Tough noogies...the people who pay the bills also have something to say about HEALTHCARE!!! So, STUFF IT!

14 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

Pelosi can’t be very happy and that’s a very good thing. LOL!


15 posted on 07/29/2009 6:05:41 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sub-Driver

LOL. Ain’t it great when Pelosi is catching hell from all sides.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 6:06:13 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

GOD BLESS DR. Janda!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 07/29/2009 6:06:14 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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one of about 10 progressives

Its high time we stopped these red sons of bitches from getting away with calling themselves "Progressives" and "Liberals"

18 posted on 07/29/2009 6:06:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook kebba)
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Oh please throw a hissy fit progressives(liberals). Let this awful piece of legislation go down in flames with no hope of coming back anytime soon!


19 posted on 07/29/2009 6:08:04 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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I hope it turns into a blood bath. lol...

Get the popcorn out. This is going to be fun to watch. :)

20 posted on 07/29/2009 6:13:40 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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