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1 posted on 07/30/2009 10:42:39 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Since the last thread was about evidence for recent dinosaurs, I thought I would post an easy to understand presentation that demonstrates that the Evos contention that the Dinos are millions of years old is religious/philosophical, not scientific.

All the best—GGG


2 posted on 07/30/2009 10:48:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Even if true ... doesn’t advance the supernatural theory that the magical Hebrew God created the Universe 5,000 years ago.


3 posted on 07/30/2009 10:49:31 AM PDT by PC99
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ROFL.


4 posted on 07/30/2009 10:50:39 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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Radioactive dating. I have a policy to never date somebody if they are radioactive. It’s just me......


5 posted on 07/30/2009 10:50:39 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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Hey! Ya know... it’s strange, but all I had to do is read the title of an article and I know that GodGunsGuts posted it... LOL...

No..., I’m all for them... but was “just saying”... :-)


6 posted on 07/30/2009 10:52:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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GodGutsGunsGibberish Alert.


8 posted on 07/30/2009 10:54:54 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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I'll simply add this for those who are interested.
11 posted on 07/30/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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I'm sure this analogy will be lost on you but here goes anyway.

When a child is very young you can take a toy away from them and put it under a piece of paper. They will be upset because they think it is gone.

A short time later they will figure out that it's under the paper and you can't fool them that way anymore.

Apparently, science is like that for you folks.

15 posted on 07/30/2009 10:58:50 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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The fatal flaw with radioactive dating methods

Another straw-man post from, the coloring book spams.

17 posted on 07/30/2009 10:59:15 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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I’ve been on a couple of radioactive dates in my life. They were all fatally flawed.


21 posted on 07/30/2009 11:02:13 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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radioactive dating methods

Is that what you call a good looking woman in a black garder belt and fish net hose.http://www.fredericks.com/panties/crotchless-panties/pa2,default,sc.html

22 posted on 07/30/2009 11:02:29 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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Uh oh, GGG, be prepared to be attacked as unscientific by a bunch of people who don’t have science degrees.


25 posted on 07/30/2009 11:06:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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Their argument is illogical because you are not looking at a live event but, in essence a recording of that event. To use their analogy, if you did have a recording of the swimmer, and you had a watch that showed the ending time, you can use the recording and the ending time to calculate how long it took him to swim. You just look backwards instead of forwards.

We know the date now. We know the rate of decay. We know and account for the variances in said rate of decay. We then can simply count backwards.

I know, I know, the argument is “the rate of decay was not always the same”. OK, prove it. Specifically how or what caused the rate of decay to change and can that be reproduced?


26 posted on 07/30/2009 11:07:50 AM PDT by mnehring
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“Picture a swimmer competing in a 1,500 metre race and an observer with an accurate wristwatch. We note that at the instant the swimmer touches the end of the pool our wristwatch reads 7:41 and 53 seconds. How long has the competitor taken to swim the race?

When I have asked an audience this question they have looked at me incredulously and said, “Starting time?” They realize that you cannot know how long the swimmer took unless you knew the time on the wristwatch when the race started. Keep that in mind when you think about working out the age of something. Without knowing the starting time it is impossible to establish the time for the race. Note: Impossible.”

That statement is complete and utter nonsense. The important thing in the calculus above is rate - which requires a beginning and ending measurement. The rate of decay can be deterined empirically within a known time period and applied more broadly. Only in cases of accelerated/decelerated decay rates does this not apply. This is why the most stable ions with steady deacay rates are used. The author poses a ridiculous analogy.


28 posted on 07/30/2009 11:08:21 AM PDT by FormerRep
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www.chernobylmailorderbrides.com?


35 posted on 07/30/2009 11:17:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Hey, I’ve had dates like that. You think she’s a nice girl and suddenly-boom! She’s trying to run your life!

Oh wait, I wandered into the creationist ghetto again. See ya!


42 posted on 07/30/2009 11:25:35 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/critique_of_tas_walker%27s_flood_geology.htm";

Fatal flaw in Dr. Tas Walker.....

All “creation science” is a lie.......


43 posted on 07/30/2009 11:25:35 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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No one is saying that the Hebrew God created the universe 5000 years ago. Just that the yardsticks used by many scientists are not reliable, that there is no standard measure by which to calibrate them.


47 posted on 07/30/2009 11:30:06 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Radioactive dating?

A conservative with beer goggles takes home hippie chick?

48 posted on 07/30/2009 11:34:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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Thanks for the ping!

I have a problem with all human-developed dating methods.

Humans invented the tests, so humans invented the interpretation of the tests, so the result can mean anything humans decide they mean. It’s not like when we arrived on earth we found an owner’s manual waiting for us with a chapter on interpreting tests that we humans developed.

Until somebody can resolve that for me, I will be skeptical of any human developed “test” that claims to date anything.


81 posted on 07/30/2009 3:20:50 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I'm the one Janet warned you about)
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