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NJ Rep Adler (D) Will Vote AGAINST Health Care Bill
NJ Rep John Adler | August 9, 2009 | New Cruelty

Posted on 08/09/2009 6:06:55 PM PDT by new cruelty

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To: SunkenCiv

I was glad to see that he stayed even against the reminders of his handlers that he was behind schedule. At one point, as someone was asking him a question, he interrupted the speaker and told his assistant “So we’ll be late. Pleast let them know”. It was clear that he wasn’t in a rush to avoid further questioning. Maybe the folks in Riverside, NJ are a tougher bunch than those of us here in Cherry Hill!


41 posted on 08/09/2009 6:38:34 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: Hang'emAll

Still, I’d agree with just about anyone on dessert!


42 posted on 08/09/2009 6:39:29 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: new cruelty; Question_Assumptions

Good for Adler for at least listening.

Representative Lance (R) is already outspoken opposing the bill. However, Congressman Frank Pallone (D) is FOR the healthcare bill.

I may have to pay my old district a visit on 8/24.

Rep. Frank Pallone Jr.
08/24 07:00 PM - 09:00PM: Town Hall - Piscataway Municipal Building, 455 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ

08/25 07:00 PM - 09:00PM: Town Hall - Red Bank Municipal Building, 90 Monmouth St, Red Bank, NJ


43 posted on 08/09/2009 6:40:12 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: isom35

that should read “ a butt heavy”
haha.


44 posted on 08/09/2009 6:41:26 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: SunkenCiv

He’s a not to be trusted, just cornered and scared of losing his job, hmmmmm maybe that will make him understand how everyone else feels!


45 posted on 08/09/2009 6:43:46 PM PDT by thomas16
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To: RummyChick

This “special needs” part of the bill needs to pointed out by Rush or Sean. I didn’t know about it until now and I’m a news junkie. Please pass this news about the “special needs” clause around!


46 posted on 08/09/2009 6:50:08 PM PDT by nowheretohide
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To: new cruelty

He is losing some in the MSM too...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312246/posts


47 posted on 08/09/2009 6:52:25 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (According to Obama to be a good citizen I must report this fishy info to flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: EmilyGeiger
stunned because he obviously had not read the bill

In my opinion, they shouldn't have to read a bill to vote AGAINST it, A single sentence can make a bill worthy of defeat! By regulation or law, they should have to certify in writing that they have read an entire bill before voting FOR it!

48 posted on 08/09/2009 6:58:36 PM PDT by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: new cruelty

I would have been a fly on the wall when he told her.


49 posted on 08/09/2009 6:59:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: nowheretohide

I am not sure that is the right clause...I know I have seen it but I just checked 1177. Don’t think that is it.


50 posted on 08/09/2009 6:59:46 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: RummyChick

Here is what is on Wiki

Sec. 1176. Limitation on enrollment outside open enrollment period of individuals into chronic care specialized MA plans for special needs individuals.
Sec. 1177. Extension of authority of special needs plans to restrict enrollment.


51 posted on 08/09/2009 7:05:24 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: Kevin in California

“I’ll believe him when I see is NAY vote.

Remember, he’s a politician..they talk from both sides of their ASS.”

There fixed it.


52 posted on 08/09/2009 7:12:14 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Question Marxist Authority)
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To: new cruelty

No potatoes for comrade Adler...it’s off to gulag and the Arctic Circle sub-committee for him and any other thought criminals who can be identified...


53 posted on 08/09/2009 7:24:15 PM PDT by Bean Counter (No, I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: RummyChick; All

Hopefully this will clear things up.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf

Starting on Page 353

13 PART 3—TREATMENT OF SPECIAL NEEDS PLANS
14 SEC. 1176. LIMITATION ON ENROLLMENT OUTSIDE OPEN
15 ENROLLMENT PERIOD OF INDIVIDUALS INTO
16 CHRONIC CARE SPECIALIZED MA PLANS FOR
17 SPECIAL NEEDS INDIVIDUALS.
18 Section 1859(f)(4) of the Social Security Act (42
19 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(4)) is amended by adding at the end
20 the following new subparagraph:
21 ‘‘(C) The plan does not enroll an individual
22 on or after January 1, 2011, other than during
23 an annual, coordinated open enrollment period
24 or when at the time of the diagnosis of the dis
25 ease or condition that qualifies the individual as

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1 an individual described in subsection
2 (b)(6)(B)(iii).’’.
3 SEC. 1177. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY OF SPECIAL NEEDS
4 PLANS TO RESTRICT ENROLLMENT.
5 (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 1859(f)(1) of the Social
6 Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(1)) is amended by
7 striking ‘‘January 1, 2011’’ and inserting ‘‘January 1,
8 2013 (or January 1, 2016, in the case of a plan described
9 in section 1177(b)(1) of the America’s Affordable Health
10 Choices Act of 2009)’’.
11 (b) GRANDFATHERING OF CERTAIN PLANS.—
12 (1) PLANS DESCRIBED.—For purposes of sec
13 tion 1859(f)(1) of the Social Security Act (42
14 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(1)), a plan described in this
15 paragraph is a plan that had a contract with a State
16 that had a State program to operate an integrated
17 Medicaid-Medicare program that had been approved
18 by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services as
19 of January 1, 2004.
20 (2) ANALYSIS; REPORT.—The Secretary of
21 Health and Human Services shall provide, through
22 a contract with an independent health services eval
23 uation organization, for an analysis of the plans de
24 scribed in paragraph (1) with regard to the impact
25 of such plans on cost, quality of care, patient satis-

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1 faction, and other subjects as specified by the Sec
2 retary. Not later than December 31, 2011, the Sec
3 retary shall submit to Congress a report on such
4 analysis and shall include in such report such rec
5 ommendations with regard to the treatment of such
6 plans as the Secretary deems appropriate.

Here is the referenced section of the Social Security Act

(4)[414] Additional requirements for severe or disabling chronic condition snps.—In the case of a specialized MA plan for special needs individuals described in subsection (b)(6)(B)(iii), the applicable requirements described in this paragraph are as follows:

(A) Each individual that enrolls in the plan on or after January 1, 2010, is a special needs individual described in subsection (b)(6)(B)(iii).

(B) The plan meets the requirements described in paragraph (5).

http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title18/1859.htm

ACK!


54 posted on 08/09/2009 7:26:13 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: new cruelty
This is his "pre horse's head" stand.

Thanks for your thorough report.

55 posted on 08/09/2009 7:27:03 PM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: Alberta's Child; algernonpj; alice_in_bubbaland; Ballygrl; Calpernia; certrtwngnut; Clemenza; ...

astounding NJ ping


56 posted on 08/09/2009 7:27:47 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: new cruelty

Thank you for posting. Adler sounds like the old democrats, not the new Communists, Socialists and progressives. The ones that really care about our country and her people.


57 posted on 08/09/2009 7:35:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: new cruelty

I don’t trust him but at least he showed up. Where is Riverside? What is the area like? I wonder if other distructs in blue Nj are the same??

Corzine is sinking in the polls.


58 posted on 08/09/2009 7:37:22 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: screaminsunshine
Kick Castor out. I can't stand that sanctimonious bi*ch.
59 posted on 08/09/2009 7:37:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: cripplecreek

Gerald Nadler is a YES vote for sure. That pig is as progressive as they come.


60 posted on 08/09/2009 7:38:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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