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Panel: 'Spice' Should Be Banned As Drug
UPI ^ | 8/12/09

Posted on 08/12/2009 10:20:27 AM PDT by steve-b

A commercially available smoking mixture called Spice, containing a powerful synthetic cannabinoid, should be banned in Britain, authorities say.

The product comes in slick packages and is touted as an all-natural, legal high containing Baybean and vanilla. But it also contains includes a man-made cannabinoid four or five times as potent as THC, the main psychoactive substance in marijuana, The Times of London reported Wednesday....

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'Spice' Should Be Banned

Has Baron Harkonnen been consulted on this?

1 posted on 08/12/2009 10:20:27 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Needless to say, I think we all saw this coming...


2 posted on 08/12/2009 10:22:34 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Because, deep in my heart, I do believe, that we shall overcome some day.)
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To: steve-b

Does it make your eyes glow blue?

Crap, I hate “Dune”...


3 posted on 08/12/2009 10:22:46 AM PDT by SandWMan (While you may not be able to legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: steve-b

But no! I was about to learn how to travel without moving!


4 posted on 08/12/2009 10:22:49 AM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: steve-b
LOL!

The Spice Must Flow!

5 posted on 08/12/2009 10:23:15 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: steve-b
But it is addictive and allows me to see the future. And the future is Doritos.

The all blue eyes are pretty cool too.

6 posted on 08/12/2009 10:23:51 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: steve-b

Funny, the article doesn’t say WHY it should be banned.


7 posted on 08/12/2009 10:23:53 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: steve-b

8 posted on 08/12/2009 10:24:59 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: steve-b; MadIvan

The Guild will never stand for this.


9 posted on 08/12/2009 10:25:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Why Does Obama Want Health Care in 4 Weeks When it Took Him 6 Months to Pick a Dog?)
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To: steve-b

I think we should all go have a beer and discuss why it should be banned.


10 posted on 08/12/2009 10:26:02 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SandWMan
Crap, I hate “Dune”...

Book, movie or TV miniseries?

The movie was awful (and I have DVDs of two versions of it), the TV miniseries was adequate but silly at times and the book is one of the few I go back to reread every few years.

11 posted on 08/12/2009 10:26:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Artemis Webb
"Tell me what you want, what you really, really want."

I want you to shove an ice pick in each ear to make it stop.

12 posted on 08/12/2009 10:28:06 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: steve-b

He who controls the spice...controls the universe.

13 posted on 08/12/2009 10:28:11 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: steve-b

Yeah! How come over several thousand years, they were never able to develop a synthetic version.

And who ever heard of a drug that was universally lethal to withdraw from?


14 posted on 08/12/2009 10:28:58 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: NonValueAdded

Whoever came up with this idea will spend the rest of his life in a Pain Generator.


15 posted on 08/12/2009 10:29:00 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Funny, the article doesn’t say WHY it should be banned.

Because somebody, somewhere might be enjoying themselves. So it has to be taxed, regulated, or banned.

/johnny

16 posted on 08/12/2009 10:29:03 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: steve-b

worm $h!t.


17 posted on 08/12/2009 10:30:38 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Billthedrill

post of the day!


18 posted on 08/12/2009 10:31:19 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: SandWMan
Ahh! That's where I hears of "spice" before.

Now they have it in the UK huh?

Any around these parts?

19 posted on 08/12/2009 10:31:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: steve-b; Servant of the Cross; roses of sharon; johncocktoasten; McGruff; frogjerk
Typical steve-b move.
After posting crap (prior post ) he goes on to post something innocuous.

Steve-bARF Alert!!!

20 posted on 08/12/2009 10:32:02 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: steve-b
From Wiki: HU-210 is a synthetic cannabinoid that was first synthesized in 1988 by the group led by Professor Raphael Mechoulam at the Hebrew University.[1][2][3] HU-210 is 100 to 800 times more potent than natural THC from cannabis and has an extended duration of action.[4] HU-210 is the (-)-1,1-dimethylheptyl analog of 11-hydroxy-Δ8-tetrahydrocannabinol, in some references it is called 1,1-dimethylheptyl-11-hydroxytetrahydrocannabinol. The abbreviation HU stands for Hebrew University. Per a 2005 article in the Journal Of Clinical Investigation, HU-210 with daily high doses over a few weeks stimulates neural growth in rats' hippocampus region, the opposite effect of drugs like alcohol, nicotine, heroin, and cocaine. It was also indicated by this increased neural growth to entail antianxiety and antidepressant effects.[5] HU-210, alongside other synthetic cannabinoids like WIN 55,212-2 and JWH-133, is implicated in preventing the inflammation caused by Amyloid beta proteins involved in Alzheimer's Disease, in addition to preventing cognitive impairment and loss of neuronal markers. This anti-inflammatory action is induced through the agonization of cannabinoid receptors which prevents microglial activation that elicits the inflammation. Additionally, cannabinoids completely abolish neurotoxicity related to microglia activation in rat models.[6] HU-210 is a potent analgesic with many of the same effects as natural THC. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sounds like this stuff has got considerable beneficial potential. Heck! It grows neurons rather than kills them! What's not to like?
21 posted on 08/12/2009 10:33:06 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju
Sounds like this stuff has got considerable beneficial potential. Heck! It grows neurons rather than kills them! What's not to like?

Super-intelligent stoners? Cheech and Chong quoting War and Peace and giggling about it?

22 posted on 08/12/2009 10:34:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: sinanju
"And who ever heard of a drug that was universally lethal to withdraw from?"

Oxycontin

23 posted on 08/12/2009 10:35:59 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: steve-b

The SPICE MUST FLOW....................................


24 posted on 08/12/2009 10:36:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (I am totally against spooning............it eventually leads to forking................)
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To: steve-b
Gotta be those Bene Gesserit witches behind this move...

But I gotta admit that Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam is a real hottie...

25 posted on 08/12/2009 10:37:05 AM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: steve-b

How will I keep my eyes blue?


26 posted on 08/12/2009 10:39:00 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: sinanju
Sounds like this stuff has got considerable beneficial potential. Heck! It grows neurons rather than kills them! What's not to like? "

The brain tumors

27 posted on 08/12/2009 10:39:33 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bert
How will I keep my eyes blue?

Tinted contacts.

28 posted on 08/12/2009 10:40:37 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bert
How will I keep my eyes blue?

and lots of visine

29 posted on 08/12/2009 10:44:17 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: swain_forkbeard
"Funny, the article doesn’t say WHY it should be banned."

It probably causes schitophrenia/bipolar disorder like cannibas does. I think the onus should be on the company to prove that it is safe before marketing it.

30 posted on 08/12/2009 10:51:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Cannibis causes “schitophrenia (never heard of that)/bipolar” disorder? Is there a scientific study that has gone through peer review that you could quote?
31 posted on 08/12/2009 11:04:33 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Billthedrill

32 posted on 08/12/2009 11:09:30 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: NonValueAdded
"The Guild will never stand for this."

Neither will CHOAM.

33 posted on 08/12/2009 11:13:09 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: NonValueAdded

Its no big deal. CHOAM will just create a black market for it. That, or whoever in Britain that is behind this will meet the Gom Jabbar. This could be the downfall of House Windsor.


34 posted on 08/12/2009 11:14:45 AM PDT by abishai
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To: Durus

There were european studies that noted a link between bipolar and pot. Harvard identified causation by determining that long term pot usage damages the brain in the same areas that are damaged in bipolar people. You can google it just as easy as I can.

PS scitophrenia is the same as schizophrenia with Louisiana spelling applied. That bothers people with Ortographobia


35 posted on 08/12/2009 11:14:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: sinanju

If you follow all the books, the Bene Tleilax figured out how to make an unlimited amount of spice from their axlotl tanks. Then the Honored Matres destroyed all that AND the knowledge.


36 posted on 08/12/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by Lx
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To: sinanju
"How come over several thousand years, they were never able to develop a synthetic version."

The Tleilaxu do, read Heretics of Dune.

37 posted on 08/12/2009 11:20:25 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Lx
"If you follow all the books, the Bene Tleilax figured out how to make an unlimited amount of spice from their axlotl tanks. Then the Honored Matres destroyed all that AND the knowledge."

Well not completely, Waff survived. Though he wouldn't share the secret with the Bene Gesserit.

38 posted on 08/12/2009 11:23:37 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: rednesss

You’re correct, I forgot about him. Have you read the son’s books? They move the story but seriously lack his father’s enormous skill.


39 posted on 08/12/2009 11:25:33 AM PDT by Lx
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To: astyanax

Hm. Hey, newbie ... are you sure your undies aren’t too tight? Seems to me like you spend an awful lot of time stalking steve-b who, you’ll note, is coming up on his 11th anniversary as a FReeper.


40 posted on 08/12/2009 11:31:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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Has he been posting crap for 11 years?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2314229/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2314229/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312681/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309715/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309668/posts
Happy Anniversary, steve!


41 posted on 08/12/2009 11:35:45 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: DannyTN

It probably causes schitophrenia/bipolar disorder like cannibas does.
______

I should have known my bipolar and 76 year old mother was a flippin’ stoner.

For the record, she smoked reefer once, with me, while dad was on a business trip. In 1978.

Since you seem to be up on the studies indicating this, what percentage of users of marijuana develop these 2 entirely different disorders? How much do they have to smoke? Over what period of time? What other substances did these patients use? Any alcohol, cocaine, LSD, anything else?


42 posted on 08/12/2009 11:36:12 AM PDT by dmz
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To: astyanax; steve-b

Cross thread stalking is considered to be in poor taste around here.

If you have a problem with steve, why not freepmail him yourself and be a man about it, instead of the little girl approach you are currently utilizing.


43 posted on 08/12/2009 11:38:52 AM PDT by dmz
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To: DannyTN
I thought that the Keele University Medical School study conclusively disproved the Harvard (and previous) study(ies). Or course you are entitled to your opinion, despite facts to the contrary. As I'm not allodoxaphobic your opinion doesn't bother me and on a more serious note I really doubt that inhaling smoke from burning pretty much anything can be good for you long term.

I'm not surprised that LA has their own spelling for things considering the cognitive dissonance that goes on there.
44 posted on 08/12/2009 11:40:01 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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Panel: 'Spice' Should Be Banned As Drug

Without question.


45 posted on 08/12/2009 11:42:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: dmz

I thought marxist idiots were also considered in poor taste around here.
Freepmail him?
In case you haven’t been paying attention, he posts and runs.
He’s not interested in defending the trash he puts up.
If you want to defend him, feel free.


46 posted on 08/12/2009 11:44:59 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: KarlInOhio

I’ve seen the movie. It was awful. Everybody whispering to themselves....it was worse than “The Octagon”....

:D

Sakura...I know you’re here...somewhere...watching me...


47 posted on 08/12/2009 11:47:34 AM PDT by SandWMan (While you may not be able to legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: DannyTN

“I think the onus should be on the company to prove that it is safe before marketing it.”

Interesting.

Should that apply to all products, like lumber, swimming pools, and guns?

Or just products meant to be ingested, like hamburgers, cigarettes, and whiskey?

What does safe mean anyway?


48 posted on 08/12/2009 11:49:13 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: astyanax

My suggestion would be to get your own life, and not worry about folks who post stuff you don’t like. You can easily ignore him.

When you don’t like what’s on the tube, do you continue to watch? Likely, you change the channel.

Posting links to all his threads while we’re trying to have a rational conversation about marijuana (bwahahahahaha) is really a buzz kill.


49 posted on 08/12/2009 11:50:23 AM PDT by dmz
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To: astyanax

And you care how someone else spends their time on this website because....?


50 posted on 08/12/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Scalp dem and hang dem up high" - Super Cat)
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