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White House appears ready to drop 'public option'
Yahoo News - AP ^ | 08/17/09 | PHILIP ELLIOTT

Posted on 08/16/2009 9:20:30 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: Smokeyblue
Apparently ready to abandon the idea, President Barack Obama's health secretary said Sunday a government alternative to private health insurance is "not the essential element" of the administration's health care overhaul.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
This is HUGH defeat for O'Bammy the Commie and his net-root nuts will go even nuttier now.

btw, does this 'Insurance cooperative option' mean we can buy Health Ins like Car insurance? -- from any company in the country? Ooooooor is everyone still held captive by their state's Insurance Regs (written by crooks on the take)?

Like the 'Blue Cross Basic Blue Plan', which is not available in all states.

21 posted on 08/16/2009 9:41:36 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: loveliberty2

“Now, citizens are seeing that it is a matter of “principle,” not an issue of semantics over wording.”

Bravo!


22 posted on 08/16/2009 9:42:50 AM PDT by Bhoy
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To: TigersEye

If its true, credit belongs on this web site


23 posted on 08/16/2009 9:45:54 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Smokeyblue

But this is not the end of it. I for one do not find anything I want in HR3200.

Tort reform, defensive medicine, and NO Sweetheart deals for the insurers and pharmacutical companies must be a part of anything that passes.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 9:47:55 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: reefdiver

It’s a head fake. They have no intention of backing off. If they have to drop it this time around they will come back and add it in later. Incrementalism.


25 posted on 08/16/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Smokeyblue
"White House appears ready to drop 'public option'"

8 months into his term and Obama is already in panic mode about his legacy.

If he does not get a health-care bill passed he will forever be known as a failed President.

26 posted on 08/16/2009 9:50:22 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Steely Tom
The legislation that sets up and defines the "co-ops" will have details, just like the current disaster has, I presume.

It doesn't need details. Even a vague hint will suffice for the subsequent creation of a mountain of regulations to implement the will Congress purportedly evinced.

Obama and the left know this.

27 posted on 08/16/2009 9:50:38 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: CPT Clay

What is ‘defensive medicine?’


28 posted on 08/16/2009 9:51:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Steamburg; rawhide

Good points./


29 posted on 08/16/2009 9:54:45 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Smokeyblue

And these “insurance cooperatives” can come to absolute zero as zero himself.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 9:55:27 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Smokeyblue

The co-ops will be a trojan horse. Once established, the co-ops will be “converted” to the public option in the future once the opposition has quieted down. Don’t let the co-ops in. Kick them when they are down!


31 posted on 08/16/2009 9:56:05 AM PDT by reaganbooster (The democrat party symbol should be the grim reaper instead of the donkey.)
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To: TigersEye

Where doctors run several extra tests, just to make sure. No lawsuits down the road.


32 posted on 08/16/2009 9:56:22 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Smokeyblue
Vote all the freaks out of Washington..I do not trust any of them right or left they had better leave my health care alone..We did not come this far to let them think we have won when we did not..Obama and his commie crew are so shifty..Vote them out and also vote Obama out then his commie Czars will go with him..put them in jail where they belong..
33 posted on 08/16/2009 9:56:30 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Smokeyblue

They have lied to us so many times before that it’s impossible to believe them now. Once passed, we will find out that it was added back in by an amendment. It could be tucked into the middle of the 1000 page bill that none of the idiots have read, and they would sign it into law, without having a clue what was in there.


34 posted on 08/16/2009 10:08:01 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: CPT Clay

We want less of that right? Would that be part of tort reform or does something else need to be done to end the practice?


35 posted on 08/16/2009 10:18:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Smokeyblue

How about they drop the whole idea...

Instituting a co-op system only put is place a sub-system of government intrusion that is still bad...

They will accept an incrementalism effort if it will keep them in power long enough to tire the rest of us out and get the public option back into play somewhere, somehow...

“Beware of Greeks bearing gifts...” — Homer


36 posted on 08/16/2009 10:18:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Smokeyblue

Drop it with one hand and then back hand a new version worded in a manner that leaves it open for future modifications.


37 posted on 08/16/2009 10:18:31 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Smokeyblue
"I think there will be a competitor to private insurers," she said. "That's really the essential part, is you don't turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing. We need some choices, we need some competition."

What is this "competitor to private insurers" if it isn't the Government? If this isn't Newspeak, nothing is.

ML/NJ

38 posted on 08/16/2009 10:27:19 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said co-ops might be a politically acceptable alternative

Shelby is a f*****g moron. Anyone who wants to form a medical co-op is free to do so now. We don't need Government Coercion to form any d*mn co-ops.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 08/16/2009 10:33:50 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; All
"Remember, it’s the skinny end of the wedge that goes in first."


40 posted on 08/16/2009 10:37:56 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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