Posted on 08/19/2009 1:04:19 PM PDT by AJKauf
Former Atlanta Falcon, now Philadelphia Eagle Michael Vick, fresh off Sunday’s appearance on 60 Minutes, sure has his loyal supporters, and they have surprising strength in numbers.
All seem to agree that Vick has done his time for running Bad Newz Kennels, his infamous dogfighting ring. So he tortured, maimed, electrocuted, drowned, and body-slammed a bunch of dogs. You want remorse for that, when other football players kill people? Leave the guy alone! Vick sat in jail long enough, he’s been punished enough, he deserves a second chance, now let him enjoy a full comeback to the NFL with all the benefits that brings.
Besides, isn’t one of Vick’s posse none other than the CEO of the Humane Society of the United States? Enough, already.
I’m no fan of Vick, but I’m trying to see things the way his fans do. And I’m actually starting to like the “he’s done his time” position. Because I can think of some others who’ve done their time and deserve a second chance: the dog lovers of Denver, Colorado...
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Vick is still a POS. He toutured animals. He served his time but the NFL is filled with thugs like him and Ray Lewis. PETA is not the issue.
The issue is Vick is still a POS. His leaving Atlanta was a gift to the team and owner. He sucks as a quarterback.
When will Barney Frank and Chris Dodd be prosecuted and imprisoned for their crimes against America???
That is the justice we should be talking about. Not jumping on someone who has already done their time.
LETS TALK ABOUT CONVICTING REAL CRIMINALS!!
He tortured and killed animals for pleasure and profit. Vick is a POS. The word evil is a pretty accurate.
Sort of it is and sort of it isn’t. As far as your overall criminal record is concerned yes it’s a conviction, as far as the time you’re going to serve though it’s vastly different. That’s part of what the plea deal is all about, save the government the cost of the trial and save yourself the cost of some time.
My point is your statement is silly. You’re implying Vick got celebrity treatment, but he got the longest sentence of the group. The whole thing went like a pretty standard federal prosecution, he was facing a good 5 to 10 had he gone to trial and lost, he plead out and got 18 months, and we didn’t have to put up with 2 years worth of legal motions and trial. This is how the vast majority of criminal cases, especially federal cases, go.
My beef with Vick is that he’s a lousy QB. Great athlete, exciting to watch, but cannot play the position. Can’t deliver the ball downfield with any consistency.
Agreed!
I mean, what are the odds Vick will go back to drowning, electrocuting, torturing, and killing stolen family pets again? Sheesh, people....
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Yes, he walked. Free. It occurred during the whole Vick saga. But, there was no one protesting for those poor children.
It didn't make the front page. No one, started a charity to support these kids.
We are dying as a society because instead of raising children we are raising pets.
Without immigrants America would be dying. And the fact is, we are dying because we are putting animals[property] up the level of a human. A human who has a soul and rights.
another spoiled arrogant overpaid barbarian who doesn’t even deserve hyphens alert.
I didn’t know he wasn’t a good QB...don’t think I’ve ever seen him play.
I say someone ought to go to great lengths to get a swimming pool of water and put a live electric cord in it. and for being a lousy QB even though he’d probably like to be a wonderful QB but he just don’t have it, he should be thrown in and let’s all sit and hear his screams of pain until he dies. You don’t die right away from electrocution let us remember.
It’s not like he asked Leroy to run the good for nothing losing mutts down to the local Vets and slip the guy a hundred bucks for having them put down, money he could have afforded.
This guy went to great lengths to torture those dogs who fought valiantly the best they could for him, all the while as he was there hearing their sobs of torment and don’t forget they were probably already torn apart from the fight.
Sheesh.....so okay, maybe it’ll only be me but I’ll not forget.
There is something deeply wrong, psychologically, with a man who can do such things repeatedly. I’ve listened to Michael’s after prison pleas, but I am of the opinion that prison didn’t work on fixing what is broken in the man’s mind that allowed his conscience to embrace such cruelty.
“There would probably have been less if he had been convicted for manslaughter.”
You mean like Stallworth.
Now I’m not sure what the charges were, but he killed a guy and served 24 days! TWENTY-FOUR DAYS!
I know it was an accident, but Stallworth was driving drunk.
When Burress shot himself in the foot (okay- the leg), that was accidental too, no doubt about it. They’re looking to send him up for years.
Something here doesn’t make sense.
BTW, Tony Dungee is a fairly astute judge of character. He is lending support to Michael Vick, but hasn’t gone so far as to say he is completely ‘rehabilitated’. That says a lot in my book beacuse I have tremendous respect for Tony. Micheal Vick? ... Not so much.
This is the main reason I loathe professional football and basketball.
Longest sentence of that group - hmmmm - interesting way to consider it. How does his sentence stack up against other cases that are nearly identical? Yes, entering a plea and agreeing to admit guilt does effectively reduce a person’s sentence (in many cases, but not all).
Where did I use the word, “Celebrity” in my posts? I didn’t. Since you brought it up, though, the NFL appears to not care all that much about his felony conviction and are willing to make money on his prior fame, damn the consequences if he’s caught involved in some other incident. I note, yet again, if I were to be convicted of a felony of any type I would lose my job and never regain it, despite whether I entered a guilty plea or was convicted by a jury/judge. Vick lives in a world where he has the media spotlight. How is his light slap on the wrist going to be perceived by those who engage in similar activities? Something I believe that should be considered.
18 months in prison for killing dogs seems like a lot to me, when some do less time for killing men.
don’t call me “people, okay?
I doubt he’ll ever do it again. Sheesh some of us are as smart as you.
His sorrow is from getting caught. If he really wanted to put those dogs down who so disappointed him, he could have one of his flackies learn how to administer a quick shot or pay an off duty Vet some bucks to do it, money he had to spare. He wanted those dogs to SUFFER, he wanted to hear their yelps of pain, in many cases he wanted the sheer joy to slamming them against a wall his own self. This after they were probably already torn apart after the losing fight.
He tortured those animals but we’ll see. I don’t think he’ll be much of anything ever again cause he was pretty much a big zero to start with.
thank you.
My beef isn’t with how much prison time he served and for sure idiots who try to turn this argument to Chris Dodd don’t deserve any time.
I wouldn’t care if he didn’t go to jail for a single day.
He still did what he did and what he did is the mark of a truly, truly evil person.
Vick has a strong but inaccurate arm. So he should fit right in on the Eagles.
Actually, I have a son who is a soldier in the Army (I served in the Air Force, or Chair Force as my son calls it). What really gets me is that I would lose my job and not be eligible for rehire if I were convicted of any and I mean ANY felony. This guy gets what amounts to a slap on the wrist and is back making huge sums of money less than two years later? I will be rooting against the Eagles this year for the first time since before Ron Jawarski was their quaterback.
The rest of the guys in his case got 12 to 15 months.
You implied celebrity (which is all I said you did) when you said you’d have served a longer sentence. That’s usually what that phrase is tagged to, that the other guy got off easier than you would have because he’s famous and you’re not.
I don’t know how you think the NFL doesn’t care, he’s still under suspension until the commish decides to lift it. Goodell has given an indication that the suspension will end around week 6, maybe earlier if Vick is well behaved, maybe later if he isn’t. A six week suspension involves lose of about 1/3 of his new $1.6 million salary.
I don’t know what line of work you’re in. There’s plenty out there where felony conviction won’t bother you too much. Might make the interview a little rough if it comes up, but really unless you need a clearance by and large it’s a non-issue.
I’m not entirely convinced Vick got off lightly. He’s already lost $20 million in NFL salary in just the two seasons he was out, that’s not counting the fact that his list salary now is $8.4 million less than it was and he’s likely to lose 1/3 of this year’s list salary. By the time his current 2 year contract is done (2 years before his old contract would have ended) we’re talking $36 million in lost salary, and that’s just his NFL salary, then there’s all the endorsement deals he had that are toast. Plus 18 months in the pen, plus how ever long he’ll be on probation. I mean it’s not the stiffest punishment ever meted out but I sure am glad it didn’t happen to me.
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