Posted on 08/24/2009 4:55:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
The City Council is considering a program to let the Police Department sell confiscated guns to licensed dealers. Sales could net $10,000 a year.
Reporting from Colorado Springs, Colo. - This conservative city is taking an unusual, some might say extreme, step to try to stem its fiscal woes: It's entering the gun business.
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Unfortunately the State of Colorado is quite unlike the City of Colorado Springs. And unlike fly-over country all over the State. I love the Western Slope away from Touristaville. Euray, Montrose, Carbondale, Montavista and others.
I love Colorado, and the people in Colorado. Except those who dislike Texans. Could tell you stories about that, but not here.
I do not like the way State Government is run in Colorado. Too many entrenched Tree Huger Types. As a consequence I could never live there.
This should be a no-brainer.
The article mentions that they have no intentions of selling to the public. Only to dealers.
I will bet your “agency” is far different now than what it was then.
Anyplace that smells like a pine forest is all right by me.
I mountain biked at 12,600 ft; I can now die happy.
Yes, and so what? Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was not referring to police seizing specific guns (and I don't know how you came up with this since I didn't say it.) My concern that was the police would increase their overall seizure activity as another form of fund raising to go along with the asset seizure of the so-called "war on drugs" Kind of like having a ticket quota, they would have a guns seizure quota looking for flimsey excuses to steal peoples' property under the color of law - you know like they do with cash now.
The thing I noticed about the law enforcement of that town: In downtown is a block-long area with all the cool bars where the young people go. At the end of the block is a DUI checkpoint, with a police motorhome for giving blood samples. Very convenient.
“I Buried My Guns”
Not me, and some of mine are loaded.
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The military officer retirement community in Colorado Springs helps make it a wonderful place. It has been a long time since I was there, but it is a beautiful place.
There was a great little German restaurant and bakery there called the “Mother Rhine”. Enjoyed some really great food there.
For the past 30+ years I have baked bread for my friends and family. Places like the “Mother Rhine” really interest me.
Right. The dealers then typically re-sell to the public.
I will bet your “agency” is far different now than what it was then.
Yes, I'm sure Customs & Border Protection, the largest law enforcement agency in the nation, is much different than it was when I left it three weeks ago. :)
Sorry for the misunderstanding, however, my general point still stands. I don't think there's much incentive for the individual officer to seize a gun (or fifty, for that matter) that wouldn't have been seized anyway, when he/she will likely never see any actual return from the seizure other than in the most general sense possible.
They're already seizing these guns. The question is, what do they do with them after the case is adjudicated? They can't keep them forever -- they have to do something with them. Typically the options are either to destroy it or sell it, or in very rare cases, donate it to a museum or something like that.
Since my old agency stopped doing sales, I've destroyed literally THOUSANDS of Beretta 96s and Glock 17s, hundreds of Ruger 10-22s, and Lord only knows how many AK variants. It was a shame, but we weren't allowed to do anything else with them.
Of course, we also destroyed oodles of crappy little Jennings/Lorcin/Cobra/Brycos, Hi-Points, and tons of guns that had been 'home gunsmithed' in ways you don't even want to think about LOL.
I went to a police auction in Oklahoma years ago. the goods were seized or confiscated and unclaimed property, mostly household goods, and a table of guns. Most of them were junk, a few good ones were also in the pile.
Every thing went cheap. Around noon, there went through the crowd something like an electrical charge. They became extremely animated and surged toward the gun table! They were now selling the guns!
The auctioneer had quite a time witht he crowd! Many people were bidding way up all the guns. I could not believe it as even the junk guns were selling for new prices.
I have been to several farm auctions where guns were sold. They were always bid way up, and most went for way more than they were worth.
Back in the days before the 1968 gun control act guns went for a very low bids at auctions. The constant fear of government controls since 1968 has changed all that.
I could see the anticonstitutional eneMedia blaring “Murder Weapon Found in Home of Texas Fossil!” Even though the crime was committed years years ago.
Here's another issue; it's different but interesting. A Freeper posted that he was picked up by the police because they traced a gun he owned to a murder. He had reported it stolen. Fortunately, he made bail and found the report. We have to be on guard against a hostile press and incompetent police.
Yes, that is true. And now we have another dimension approaching us, "corrupt" Federal Police. This is in the near future if we do not stop this Federal Power Grab now. Now, not later, it must stop Now.
I was very surprised to learn from my brother in Georgia that a large caliber pistol which had been stolen by his own son - a druggie who burgled bro’s store - was recovered during another crime way up in Chicago......and returned to him.
Get a bill of sale. Any crimes committed using the gun before the date on the bill obviously have nothing to do with you. Plus the dealer from whom you purchased it should have documentation showing that he bought it from the local LEO’s. So not only did it not belong to you during those crimes, but it’s been police property in between.
Excellent point. I would want there to be safeguards in place to make sure that due process was actually being followed. (unlike what is done thee days in the case of most forfieture related to the "wod"). For instance, the person would actually have to have been convicted of a crime that was directly related to the firearm in question.
I see. As long as drug possession is alleged, it's o.k. to steal people's property. Cool.
Should any crimes be committed with the guns sold by the city, may we then sue to put them out of business? Please?
I see. As long as drug possession is alleged, it's o.k. to steal people's property. Cool.
Oh no I am not saying it is alright. It is just the law in some states.
In view of the following, that doesn't sound reasonable to me!
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation
i wouldn’t buy one of those....with the way the Police arrest people with their computers, its a disaster waiting to happen!
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