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Authorities Say Body of Murdered Oklahoma Pastor Was in Unnatural Position
FoxNews ^ | 8/27/09 | AP

Posted on 08/27/2009 9:38:13 AM PDT by Sammy67

ANADARKO, Okla. — Authorities say the body of a pastor killed inside her small Oklahoma church was "staged," meaning it was moved into an unnatural position, after the murder.

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Jessica Brown said Thursday that the body of 61-year-old Carol Daniels was "staged" in the Christ Holy Sanctified Church in Anadarko, but declined to elaborate.

Earlier, police said they were reviewing video surveillance tapes for clues in the brutal killing of Daniels inside her church.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: anadarko; caroldaniels; church; crime; murder; oaklahoma; oklahoma; pastor; religion
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To: Sammy67
It always bothered me that Jimmy Page of Led Zep was so into Aleister Crowley. Page even owned an occult bookstore in London back in the band's heyday of the mid-70's.
21 posted on 08/27/2009 12:19:20 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Color me red, white and blue - I attended a tea party on July 4th.)
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To: reagandemocrat

I had no idea...


22 posted on 08/27/2009 12:20:25 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: reagandemocrat

I have a friend (happens to be a famous opera singer)
who lived next door to the LaBianca’s. She said that
her house had been broken into that night. During
Mansons’ trial, he recalled a house they targeted
having pictures of children on the walls and up the
staircase. Whether seeing pictures of children changed
Manson’s mind, nonetheless, he decided to “choose” the
house next door. I had been to her home many times.
We had the same voice teacher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leno_and_Rosemary_LaBianca

In the annals of crime, there might never have been a more bizarre motive for killing than that revealed in the 1970-71 trial of four Manson “Family” members. In the twisted mind of thirty-four-year-old Charles Manson, a wave of bloody killings of high-society types in Los Angeles would be the spark that would set off a revolution by blacks against the white establishment. When “blackie,” as Manson called black people, proved unable to govern, they would turn to Manson and his tribe of followers, who would have survived “Helter Skelter” by hiding out in an underground cave in the Death Valley area of California while the chaos raged above.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html


23 posted on 08/27/2009 12:33:02 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Fascinating.

Chappaquiddick—July 25, 1969
Tate/LaBianca Manson murders—August 10, 1969

40 years later?? Ted passes, Squeeky’s let go, and now this horrid scene.

Weird.


24 posted on 08/27/2009 12:48:41 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: AppyPappy

And COWS!!!


25 posted on 08/27/2009 1:24:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reagandemocrat

There is a huge racial subtext here as well.


26 posted on 08/27/2009 1:29:38 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Ciexyz
It always bothered me that Jimmy Page of Led Zep was so into Aleister Crowley. Page even owned an occult bookstore in London back in the band's heyday of the mid-70's.

As a huge Zeppelin fan, I'll give him a pass. He was in his 20s, famous and rich, and the whole occult thing was part of the image they were trying to convey at the time. It was a gimmick to sell records.

27 posted on 08/27/2009 1:36:05 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: reagandemocrat

Is there anything ratting around in the conspiracy
part of your brain that is askinig if the Manson Massacres
could have in some way been related to Chappaquiddick?
It sure took the spotlight off of Ted Kennedy.

And in degree of horror, the Manson Massacre makes
Mary Jo’s death look like a flea bite.

Wonder if Michael Creighton is lurking?

I’m just sayin’ ...


28 posted on 08/27/2009 1:36:32 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I agree. They also have warned other ministers.priest and preachers to make sure they check their security measures.

Looks like they are worried that whoever attacked her is going to attack again.

29 posted on 08/27/2009 1:41:51 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

If I recall correctly Charleston Heston was on their hit list. I believe for castration.


30 posted on 08/27/2009 1:43:43 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware; reagandemocrat

I did not know they planned to harm Charleston
Heston. But I’m sure (at that time) God’s people
began to pray and who knows what additional evil
was thwarted because of the intervention of our
Holy and Mighty God.

Hear us Lord as we ask Your hand of protection
upon this town and the people who serve You.
Place a hedge of protection around them. Make
them invisible to their enemies. Please give
supernatural wisdom and discernment to those
who are hunting these criminals. Seek them out
and destroy them before they do more harm.

In Jesus Name!

..Jo


31 posted on 08/27/2009 1:50:51 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Amen.


32 posted on 08/27/2009 1:55:46 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: MrB
Saw Anton Lavey in an interview - the man exudes evil. There’s no other way to describe what I felt when watching the man talk.

Anton LaVey was an old carny who came up with a schtick that did very well for him for a long time. He knew how to do something outrageous to get publicity, then capitalize on it, not to mention get laid like crazy. Pretty good act for a while in the 60s and 70s. Then, not so much and he declared bankruptcy in the early 90s.

Now his heirs are squabbling over who gets the ownership rights of the Church of Satan, for what that's worth, and the royalties from his books, which probably don't bring that much anymore, either.

Interestingly, one of the items in his estate is an original poster from "Nightmare Alley," an old Tyrone Power movie. That movie is about a fake circus mentalist who pretends to be a real psychic to con suckers.

33 posted on 08/27/2009 1:57:53 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Jo Nuvark

Yep and she still was a Manson believer.


34 posted on 08/27/2009 2:40:00 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Actually, I’ve been saying, since before the election, that Obama’s view of America and his plans for us, reminded of helter skelter. It felt like Obama was the catalyst for someone else’s diabolic plan to use the Black population to over turn our whole way of life.


35 posted on 08/27/2009 5:08:48 PM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: AliVeritas

Prayers up for all who serve God.

O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the
heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare
which we carry on against principalities and powers,
against the rulers of this world of darkness, and
spirits of evil. Come to the aid of man, whom God
created immortal, made in His own image and likeness,
and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the
devil. Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together
with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the
leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate
host, who were powerless to resist Thee, nor was there
place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that
ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who
seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with
his angels.

Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has
taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he
wanders about with all the multitude of wicked
spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the
name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and
cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the
crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out,
as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on
men; his depraved mind, corrupt heart, his spirit of
lying, impiety, blasphemy, his pestilential breath of
impurity and of every vice and iniquity. These most
crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall
and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the
Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her
most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself,
where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter
and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world,
they have raised the throne of their abominable
impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the
Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against
the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God,
and give them the victory. They venerate Thee as their
protector and patron; in Thee Holy Church glories as
her defense against the malicious power of hell; to
Thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be
established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God
of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far
conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in
captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in
the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly
conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down
the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and
Satan, do Thou again make him captive in the abyss,
that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen.

V. Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered, hostile
powers.
R. The Lion of the tribe of Judah has conquered, the
root of David.
V. Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord
R. As we have hoped in Thee.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto Thee

LET US PRAY
God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon
Thy holy name, and we humbly implore Thy clemency,
that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin
Immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious
Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us
against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who
wander about the world for the injury of the human
race and the ruin of souls. Amen.

Pope Leo XIII, 1888


36 posted on 08/28/2009 12:35:39 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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To: AliVeritas; Deo volente; Centurion2000; All

The Daily Oklahoman just came out and they are reporting the preacher was crucified. Trying to find a link online but it might not be until later or tomorrow morning before newsok.com puts story up.


37 posted on 08/30/2009 6:05:15 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor; AliVeritas; Deo volente; Centurion2000; All
One is up, not sure if it's all.

http://newsok.com/slaying-details-of-anadarko-pastor-shocking/article/3396862?custom_click=lead_story_title

38 posted on 08/30/2009 6:06:36 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Not crucified but in that position apparently. Hair burned, head almost severed off body due to deep cuts, other cuts on body maybe defensive wounds. Chemical to dissolve stuff to try to hide DNA evidence? And naked...maybe to get rid of DNA on clothes. Hmmm, maybe perp was wounded, maybe sliced hands/fingers in the attack?

They think not a cold blooded serial killer, that it was done in rage but person(s) was thinking to bring that can of dissolving stuff.

39 posted on 08/30/2009 6:13:33 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Neighbors next door didn't hear a sound they said. Cameras didn't pick up much. I would assume that one of the cameras might have shown a vehicle entering or leaving one side street to get to alley or going by but apparently didn't or couldn't.

Killer(s) had to have come and gone through back door. No mention of windows being out. I guess the one camera could pick up the pastor's car as she drove up to the north front door of church.

Someone driving up to back alley door or from neighborhood area.

40 posted on 08/30/2009 6:23:33 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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