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To: LucyT; BP2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=144#144

One VERY important tidbit not included in the Post #7170 regarding the NEVER BEFORE RELEASED Susan Blake interview:

Susan Blake said, then retracted, that she received a post card from Stanley (Ann Dunham) from a ship in February or March of 1961. When asked where it was headed, she said she did not know. Immediately in the next breath, Blake said she was just guessing about the ship. Then she also said that instead of a postcard, it was a actually a letter from Ann in Spring of 1961, stating she had been married and was expecting a baby, but didn’t remember from where the letter was sent.
This information about the ship came about two-thirds the way in the interview. By this point, the interviewer had also been told that Ann said she was on her way out to Boston in August 1961 — a year before Obama SR started attending Harvard — and quite frankly, he began to think Blake was making things up “on the fly”. Because the interviewer was already dismissing parts of her statements by this point, and then she retracted this, he didn’t think much of it (neither did I at the time). That’s when the interviewer asked the “money question” about Obama’s citizenship, and she hung up.

To add to this concept of a ship ride to Kenya, here’s this from Michael Patrick Leahy book, “What Does Barack Obama Believe?” when he interviewed Blake in August 2008: “If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, there is no indication that Barack Obama Senior was present at the birth of his third child. Stanley Ann’s high school classmate Susan Blake had the impression that he was not there, and may not even have been on the island of Hawaii at the time...”


It’s no wonder the Susan Blake video was pulled. There was a short version on a blogsite - that has also disappeared. I don’t know what WND is using to tantalize its readers with, because the site says ‘content not available.’

Regardless of the window dressing, the archive image of a residence, the baby-sitting tales of Mary Toutinghi, the Polk directory listing, the UW letter, the attendance records...

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM TOOK EXTENSION COURSES. THEY WERE PROBABLY POSTED TO HER. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE.


56 posted on 09/01/2009 7:08:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

#56 is important, and too long to excerpt.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2329932/posts?page=56#56


59 posted on 09/01/2009 7:31:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks

If you read the interview from the Toutinghi woman, she says her daughter turned 50 this year. It was actually in July of this year, 2009. Her memory is of watching a 7 mo 0bama baby in the early spring when her daughter was 18mos old @ Feb or Mar of 1962.
Fuzzy math! Her daughter would have been 18mos old in Jan of 1961, not 1962. Does that mean 0bama was born in 1960, not 1961? Or is she in on the “duck and cover”? Her kids and grandkids admire the Communist Russians and Malcolm X, live in places like Prague and are college professors. I doubt her husband was taking classes in 1961... she’s in her 70’s. He was more than likely teaching at UofW.


66 posted on 09/01/2009 8:04:46 PM PDT by kimla
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To: Fred Nerks
STANLEY ANN DUNHAM TOOK EXTENSION COURSES. THEY WERE PROBABLY POSTED

First of all, she was registered as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Secondly, her transcript form makes a distinction between "Extension" and "Correspondence" courses. The meaning of correspondence courses is pretty clear. "Extension" is less clear and has slightly different meanings from school to school. Correspondence courses are often run out of the Extension department. The Transcript indicates that she took extension courses ("x" prefix, not correspondence courses("C" suffix) . So it would seem that, (1) Extension courses are somehow different from correspondence courses. The most natural difference would be that "Extension" courses were done "in person", at odd times and/or off campus locations. Back then, few schools had "regular" evening or weekend courses, although some, especially in the freshman courses, but they often had such courses taught in their "extension" division, usually by adjuncts or other non professorial instructors.

There were, naturally, no "on line" or "DVD", or even talk back TV courses. Today, at Washington, those "distance learning" courses are still administered by the Extension department. They even still have a "non degree seeking admission", whereby the credits one earns can be counted towards a degree after regular admission, which her transcript shows Stanley Ann did for the Spring '62 term. She probably did it that way because of her horrendous grades in the one semester at U. Hawaii (GPA 1.8), although taking evening classes would also be advantageous from a Barry care perspective.

The notion of her taking evening classes until that final term, (quarter) is supported by the report of her "building manager"/babysitter, Mary Toutongi, who related that Ann was taking "night classes" in January and February of '62, which would have been the Winter term.) On the transcript, the course she took in Autumn '61 and Winter '62 all show as "extension", not "correspondence."

Based on this, and the reports of her being in Washington state as early as late August of '61, I tend to think that Chief Engineer's theory of birth in Canada is quite likely to be correct. That theory goes, she never intended to be married to BHO Sr, and he did not intend to be married to her. Whether the marriage was real, but one of expediency, or nonexistent. Maybe she found out about the other wife, but for whatever reason, she was sent to Canada, to have the baby and give him up for adoption. But then she changed her mind, as young women often do in such situations. So she showed up in Seattle, *with* Barry, rather than without him. But clearly she was trying get and stay away from BHO Sr, or perhaps her mother wanted it that way.She did not return to Hawaii, until after he left for Harvard.

Now is it possible that Barry was born in Washington state, sure. Or born in Hawaii and then transported shortly after birth to Washington state? Again, yes, but it seems unlikely just from a logistical standpoint. (She would not know in advance exactly when she'd be able to travel).

89 posted on 09/01/2009 10:16:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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