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Parents Not Welcome at President's School Speech
Montana Policy Organization ^ | 9/4/2009 | Michael Noyes

Posted on 09/06/2009 9:16:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins

Parents Not Welcome at President's School Speech By: Michael Noyes | 2009-09-04 BOZEMAN – Parents of students in Bozeman schools may not be welcome if they want to watch the President’s address to students on Tuesday morning with their child.

Bozeman Public Schools Superintendent Kirk Miller said the president’s address falls under the school’s policies on guest speakers. That policy states that, “Unless the principal approves otherwise, the teacher will not allow non-class members to hear the speaker.” The rest of the story is here: http://www.montanapolicy.org/main/story.php?story_id=15

Please take a look and pass along as you feel appropriate. And have a good weekend! Carl

Carl Graham President Montana Policy Institute 406.219-0508

The Montana Policy Institute is a nonprofit, nonpartisan policy research center dedicated to educating Montanans on the benefits of limited government, free market principles, individual liberty, and individual responsibility. To find out more, visit us at www.montanapolicy.org . You can help by making a tax free contribution here: Support MPI .


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: arth; brainwashing; children; education; indoctrination
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Heard about this from a friend in Montana....
1 posted on 09/06/2009 9:16:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

How the hell did Montana ever get so communistic?


2 posted on 09/06/2009 9:18:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Californians? and Hollyweirdos....


3 posted on 09/06/2009 9:19:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Liberal teachers and a lot of rich actors, everyone else is normal.


4 posted on 09/06/2009 9:20:49 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bill Ayers and Progressives writing the curriculum for decades.


5 posted on 09/06/2009 9:25:11 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: goodnesswins

The fact that parents would be refused entry, or that anyone would be refused entry, is very disturbing.

If there is nothing to hide, and this is not an indoctrination... oh, wait!


6 posted on 09/06/2009 9:25:24 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: goodnesswins

ORLY?


7 posted on 09/06/2009 9:28:53 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell)
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To: KarenMarie

I would pull my child out of that school pronto! No one should tell a parent they can’t attend anything at a school that child attends. That is just stupid!

What difference would it make unless they have something to hide!


8 posted on 09/06/2009 9:29:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: goodnesswins; metmom

Good find! Strange for Montana in my way of thinking.


9 posted on 09/06/2009 9:31:16 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: goodnesswins

Tha district sounds completely bassackwards. Parents do not need permission from a district employee to see their own child.


10 posted on 09/06/2009 9:34:36 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Actually it sounds illegal.


11 posted on 09/06/2009 9:40:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: goodnesswins
Bozeman Public Schools Superintendent Kirk Miller said the president’s address falls under the school’s policies on guest speakers. That policy states that, “Unless the principal approves otherwise, the teacher will not allow non-class members to hear the speaker.”

By that standard, it's not only parents, it's the Superintendant, principal, and all other school employees including teachers who can't attend either since they are "non-class members".

What a strange school district.

12 posted on 09/06/2009 9:41:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: kcvl

Exactly..and the employees sound brainbwashed into believing that parents are a disruption. A televised speech equivalent to a guest speaker? Yah, rrrright.


13 posted on 09/06/2009 9:41:43 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: goodnesswins

I am trying to think of a nonsinister reason for such a rule but haven’t come up with one yet. Anyone?


14 posted on 09/06/2009 9:42:19 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: goodnesswins

That policy states that, “Unless the principal approves otherwise, the teacher will not allow non-class members to hear the speaker.”

I’m sorry but that’s just plain creepy. Just who do they think is in charge here?


15 posted on 09/06/2009 9:42:52 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: smoothsailing

If the district was unhappy with the policy...they merely vote the school board out...and the county education director. It’s that simple. Obviously, they don’t care.

If the locals think this is a big deal and they can’t stop it....they can merely cut the power line and bring the school to 1888-reality.


16 posted on 09/06/2009 9:44:05 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SpaceBar

It sure does...


17 posted on 09/06/2009 9:44:34 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:SfTFlEFTQIwJ:www.bpe.mt.gov/millerbio.shtml+Bozeman+Public+Schools+Superintendent+Kirk+Miller&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


18 posted on 09/06/2009 9:46:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pepsionice

Exactly.


19 posted on 09/06/2009 9:46:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: goodnesswins

I have a feeling that school district is going to be experiencing a rapid enrollment drop starting this week.


20 posted on 09/06/2009 9:47:50 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: smoothsailing
Okay, I'm going to take a guess here and suggest this policy might be related to school security. Obviously, dealing with a handful of curious parents is no big deal, but if a couple dozen or more show up, there's always the risk that some pervert tries to sneak in.

Of course, the schools could always keep the visiting adults in one area, say the cafeteria or auditorium or gym, where they could watch the speech, and then school officials could make sure they leave the building. That would reduce any security risks.

21 posted on 09/06/2009 9:48:05 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; Antoninus; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Un-stinkin'-real.

Just who's working for whom here?

Whose taxes are paying for whose wages and whose kids does this petty little demagogue think that he's controlling here?

And here's another clueless public school representative who probably can't figure out why homeschooling is on the increase.

22 posted on 09/06/2009 9:48:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

The only situations I am aware of when a school can deny a parent or guardian access to a child is when there is a lawful reason such as a restraining order, or parental custody issue involved, or the person simply is not a relative with sufficient reason to be in contact with the child.


23 posted on 09/06/2009 9:49:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: smoothsailing; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Bozeman Public Schools Superintendent Kirk Miller said the president’s address falls under the school’s policies on guest speakers. That policy states that, “Unless the principal approves otherwise, the teacher will not allow non-class members to hear the speaker.”

Exactly why would any parent be prohibited from seeing any guest speaker the school is using the parent's money to speak to the parent's children to hire?

You know what would freeze over before I'd agree to that.

24 posted on 09/06/2009 9:51:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kittykat77

I figured all districts require parents to check in, and give them a visitors pass. Many have staff at the front door to prevent outsiders from sneaking in. Maybe not in their case...


25 posted on 09/06/2009 10:04:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: SpaceBar

I agree! This is not acceptable. What’ll they do if a parent shows up? Call the cops? Have them arrested?


26 posted on 09/06/2009 10:07:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: metmom; kittykat77

I know I would be livid if this was going on in my school district.


27 posted on 09/06/2009 10:08:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: metmom

No one would keep me out either. Our middle school use to demand parents call ahead of time so they knew to expect us. Ha! I never did.


28 posted on 09/06/2009 10:10:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: smoothsailing

My youngest daughter is now a senior in high school and is going to the public school, as her brother and sister did for their senior years, to pick up some AP courses.

I asked her if she heard whether or not they’d be watching obama’s speech Tues. and she asked, *What speech?*.

I haven’t heard anything in our community about it. Even though it is geared for younger grades, there are no secrets around here, so I’m sure she would have heard about it if it was being shown. I’ll have to keep my ears open.


29 posted on 09/06/2009 10:13:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Our town is pretty small. Everyone knows everyone else and if some stranger tried to get into the school (you have to buzz in), they’d know it. They recognize everyone on their security cameras.

FWIW, they didn’t want to put one it because there’s really no need for it, but were forced to by state mandate.


30 posted on 09/06/2009 10:17:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kcvl

Judging from his resume, I’d suspect he is one of those guys whose educational background overrides common sense. (Educators know what’s best for our kids) I assumed montana’s schools would be ran with a conservative slant.


31 posted on 09/06/2009 10:26:45 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: metmom

Our children are all grown up and out on their own, so we rely on our younger neighbors to keep us up to date.

They tell us the local schools here are focused on returning student orientation and aren’t planning any live viewing of the speech.


32 posted on 09/06/2009 10:27:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: goodnesswins
The collective right to an education outweighs the individual right to be a parent to your child.

Wake the eff up, America! The communists are here.

33 posted on 09/06/2009 10:32:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: metmom

I think the buzzer is a great idea... For a lot of reasons.


34 posted on 09/06/2009 10:33:35 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
How the hell did Montana ever get so communistic?

Bozeman is a university town.

35 posted on 09/06/2009 10:34:41 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: metmom
Could the students be sent to a “surprise” assembly? Or knowing the problems this malarkey raised the principal decided to keep it low key?

For those who missed it, Obama violated protocol by going directly to the school principals. This bypasses at least two levels of elected of local elected government, the State School Superintendents and School Boards. We are truly under a totalitarian regime.

36 posted on 09/06/2009 10:35:21 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: okie01

That’ll do it! Same as Flagstaff, Arizona.


37 posted on 09/06/2009 10:35:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I agree! This is not acceptable. What’ll they do if a parent shows up? Call the cops? Have them arrested?
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Look what happened to David Parker.


38 posted on 09/06/2009 10:43:53 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It's what the red vs blue county-by-county map is all about.

The Demos win the urban centers (minorities), the capital cities (government workers) and the university towns (academics). And virtually nothing else.

39 posted on 09/06/2009 10:45:39 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: goodnesswins

That and the morons moving from the east coast!


40 posted on 09/06/2009 10:45:47 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s just a few towns out here.


41 posted on 09/06/2009 10:47:06 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: goodnesswins
  Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
(PreK‐6)

Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education

September 8, 2009

Before the Speech

• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President
of the United States and his speech by reading books about
presidents and Barack Obama. Teachers could motivate
students by asking the following questions:
Who is the President of the United States?
What do you think it takes to be president?
To whom do you think the president is going to be speaking?

Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
What do you think he will say to you?

Teachers can ask students to imagine that they are
delivering a speech to all of the students in the United
States.
If you were the president, what would you tell students?
What can students do to help in our schools?
Teachers can chart ideas about what students would say.

Why is it important that we listen to the president and
other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members
of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

During the Speech

As the president speaks, teachers can ask students to write
down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally
meaningful. Students could use a note‐taking graphic
organizer such as a “cluster web;” or, students could
record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children
could draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students
listen to the speech, they could think about the
following:
What is the president trying to tell me?
What is the president asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the president challenging me
to think about?

Students could record important parts of the speech where
the president is asking them to do something. Students
might think about the following:
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else?
Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?

Students could record questions they have while he is
speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger
children may need to dictate their questions.

Menu of Classroom Activities
(PreK‐6)
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America 2

After the Speech

Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they
recorded, exchange sticky notes, or place notes on a
butcher‐paper poster in the classroom to discuss main
ideas from the speech, such as citizenship, personal
responsibility, and civic duty.

Students could discuss their responses to the following
questions:
What do you think the president wants us to do?
Does the speech make you want to do anything?
Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?
What would you like to tell the president?


Extension of the Speech

Teachers could extend learning by having students:

Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted
in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the
following labels: personal, academic, community, and
country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for
achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus
first on personal and academic goals so that community and
country goals can be more readily creaed.

Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve
their short‐term and long‐term education
goals. Teachers would collect and redistribute these
letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to
monitor their progres.


Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to
post around the classroom.

Interview one another and share goals with the class to
create a supportive community.

Participate in school‐wide incentive programs or
contests for those students who achieve their goals.

Write about their goals in a variety of genres, such as
poems, songs, and personal essays.

Create artistic projects based on the themes of their
goals.

Graph individual progress toward goals.
http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

42 posted on 09/06/2009 11:04:00 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: goodnesswins

All you Freepers - Write to Kirk Miller. Here’s his email address: kirk.miller@bsd7.org


43 posted on 09/06/2009 11:10:24 PM PDT by Ritima
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To: wintertime

I had to google his name, and now I remember the story..what was the outcome? I see that he indeed was arrested. Was he ever allowed back on the property?


44 posted on 09/06/2009 11:12:40 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: goodnesswins
“Unless the principal approves otherwise, the teacher will not allow non-class members to hear the speaker.”

My kids have a standing rule that they must tell me as soon as possible if they are told not to tell their parents about anything. We also have a standing rule that if there is a school activity where parents are banned, my kids will not attend. This school's policy is creepy, and my family would not comply.

45 posted on 09/07/2009 2:52:04 AM PDT by TurtleUp (I believe that America is good and that human life is good, so I'm a conservative.)
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To: goodnesswins

my kids would be sick....F’em


46 posted on 09/07/2009 5:11:46 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Was he ever allowed back on the property?
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Nope! I believe that he is under a permanent injunction not to enter onto the school property for any reason.


47 posted on 09/07/2009 6:28:11 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: goodnesswins

At my kids’ school, a parent may enter the classroom at any time, unannounced.


48 posted on 09/07/2009 6:51:15 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: smoothsailing

Are we sure this is barring parents? It could be meant to bar another speaker at an occasion and thus prevent some type of conflict.

Maybe it’s poorly worded lawyer-speak.


49 posted on 09/07/2009 6:55:23 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Ritima

Thanks for posting that.....email outgoing!


50 posted on 09/07/2009 8:34:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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