Posted on 09/08/2009 3:42:57 PM PDT by Moseley
This ABC News Video broadcast live on 9/11 proves that WTC 7, World Trade Center Building 7, was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of the WTC Twin Towers.
There is a huge controversy over the cause of the collapse of WTC Bldb 7, whether from the terrorist attack or from a government conspiracy with Dick Cheney, Larry Silverstein or the Mossad.
Investigators report that WTC7 was massively damaged by the collapse of the twin towers, on the lower floors.
This video DOES NOT show the lower floors through the smoke, where the severe damage was reported by firefighters.
However, this does provide absolute proof that SOME debris DID hit Building 7, near the top of the structure. Damage to the top floors, on the corner nearest to the camera POV, is unmistakable.
That damage is obviously not enough to cause failure of the building. However, this proves that debris DID travel far enough to damage WTC7. Debris falling in an arc would fall father away from the base before hitting the lower floors of WTC7.
SO this is dramatic confirmation that the accounts of damage to WTC Building 7 is entirely plausible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW5TRGcJnAk
I work in a building with three huge steam boilers (diesel fired) and a backup generator in the basement. I don't know if the generator is diesel fired as well, but I know the boilers are because my husband's company put in a bid for maintaining them.
If we ever have a fire it's going to be a mess with all that fuel stored down there. But this is a five-story, old fashioned heavy steel-and-concrete building, not a large office tower.
They are the type who would say our enemy is just a myth and turn in their neighbors to big brother because their dog pooped in their yard.
Most buildings that depend on elevators are required to have backup generators.
I’n not saying that that was the cause of any failure, since neither diesel, nor jet fuel burn at a high enough temperature to affect the hardness of steel, unless a large draft of oxygen is present to increase the rate of combustion. - These are high energy fuels to be sure, but they are slow burners at normal conditions.
That is not true. I told you I was an arson investigator, remember? I personally investigated one steel frame building collapse due to fire -- a refrigerated warehouse building in Alabama. It was a very hot fire that was fueled by the plastic foam insulation that lined the building, not to mention several hundred thousand pounds of peanuts and government surplus cheese inside. And there are lots of others - just Googling around I came up with this site.
Like many, I have read and experienced an array of people and opinions in close to eight years total on FR, but I can honestly say that today, to read remarks made by apparently living hands at a keyboard belonging to apparently living, breathing and thinking people who subscribe to the same truther theory that Van Jones of Obama's infamy subscribed to is one of the more unusual and bizarre experiences.
So to you Truthers, the truth is out there! We have the light on and the pop corn for you.
Don’t you know, peanuts and government cheese burns hotter than jet fuel. LOL..
The next thing you know, he’ll bring up the old crap that jet fuel is the same as cooking kerosene and kerosene doesn’t get that hot (typical truther ignorance next step showing they don’t know that there are thousands of different kerosene compounds, all much different than the cooking kerosene all burn at different temperatures- hell, it was a kerosene type compound that was used in the Saturn V rockets.)
I thought GW Bush dynamited the original foundations of the WTC, or directed the blind cleric, or did he mess with the N.O. levees?
Sorry, I keep forgetting what page I am supposed to be on.
I haven't read it since it came out some time ago, so I can't be sure.
I'm sure nobody designed for that sort of contingency though.
Karl Rove’s magic weather machine did it.
The nastiest part of it all was not clearing away the pile of blackened steel, but the remnants of the cheese that ran out on the ground with fragments of burnt peanuts and burlap bags. They tried to clean it up, but it was such a sticky mess and smelled so bad that they eventually dug a whacking great hole in the ground and buried it. Thousands of years from now, archaeologists are going to be scratching their heads . . . .
Judging from the digestive effects of government surplus cheese, I'd say it was pretty darned combustible . . . .
Yes, with a #10 oxy-acetylene fed rosebud. But the flame is 1280 degrees; about three times as hot as jet fuel burns uncontained.
This kind of rhetorical blasting is not any help to the debate, nor the search for facts.
Making notes now, as I type.
OK, think I got it. Let me see.
Karl Rove was behind 9-11 CHECK
Bush was behind dynamiting 9th ward levees CHECK
Clinton was impeached only for sex. CHECK
Mikhail Gorbachev ended the Cold War, not Ronald Reagan. CHECK
Al Gore invented the Internet. CHECK.
It doesn’t take full temperature, depending on the alloy, time of exposure can make it mailable. Different alloys require it reaching a different “Curie temperature” to anneal. Pure Iron has a Curie temp of around 1,000K but if it is an Iron/Zinc alloy, for example, is something like 20% lower.
I don’t know the exact alloy that was used but I remember there was a recoilless fraction study of the WTC structure and the various fuels in the building along with the time, easily reached the alloy’s Curie temp in order to weaken its structure.
We have received a secret Eschelon report regarding the keyword “someone spilled the beans” which calls, on our part, for an immediate “Viking Kitty Zot” alert. The people in the white coats will be at your door shortly. We’ll check your Thorazine.
Just remember, if it is on the Internet, it MUST be true. Keep having faith and listening to the voices in your head.
And thus, we say, Good Bye. I’m sure the good Reverend Wright has a forum somewhere that welcomes “Truther” knowledge.
Karl Rove was behind 9-11 CHECK
Bush was behind dynamiting 9th ward levees CHECK
Clinton was impeached only for sex. CHECK
Mikhail Gorbachev ended the Cold War, not Ronald Reagan. CHECK
Al Gore invented the Internet. CHECK.
Wait a damn minute...
Jeb Bush had no business letting that hurricane get past Florida.
Especially since he knew Dick Cheney had Halliburton build that secret weather machine in his basement.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CHEMTRAILS blew those airplanes off course and into the World Trade Center while Ronald Reagan planted the explosives with black helicopters before it was finished.
Then Nixon was cloned from those aliens at Roswell so he could time travel and kidnap those innocent terrorists for the flights on 9-11...
You guys never get it right and I'm reporting you to Art Bell. I'm sick of these government coverups, especially since Steven King killed John Lennon and we never got the truth there either.
That much is obvious!!!
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