Milton Friedman - Why Drugs Should Be Legalized

You Tube 8 minutes ^ | Milton Friedman

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Milton Friedman puts forward a compelling case for the legalization of drugs

[philman_36]

...and was just playing along.
I guess I'm the one late to the show this time.
I thought I was under a right wing assault. LOL

[philman_36]

If society choses to tolerate legalized alcohol, that creates NO obligation for it to tolerate dope as well.
I have to reiterate once again that "society" had no choice in the matter. Just like "society" had no choice when seat belt laws got more stringent or when the federal government dictated, and mandated to the States that they had to bring their individual BAC limits into government compliance.
Society got to choose compliance as it was fait accompli by government.

[philman_36]

Damn. I hate when I have to scrape off the egg.
Good day.

[Mojave]

I have to reiterate once again that "society" had no choice in the matter.

Reiterating a falsehood doesn't magically transform it into a truth.

Society expresses its will through its laws and its elected representatives, who have rejected legalized dope both nationally and in every one of the fifty states.

[Mojave]

Yep. Today’s subcompacts crumple real good.

[philman_36]

Society expresses its will through its laws and its elected representatives...
Really? Well, you've got a fly in your soup.
What happens when there are no elected representatives? What happens when laws are passed by only one person?
Whose will is being expressed then? Surely not "society's", wouldn't you agree?

[philman_36]

Are you having trouble crafting a reply?

[philman_36]

Reiterating a falsehood doesn't magically transform it into a truth.
Silence doesn't magically transform your premise into a truth either.
If anything it undermines your whole premise because you seem to be unable to defend it when confronted.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"we should have the right to be stupid and that is my arguement. — Steve Van Dooren on FR"

I am not sure if Tolsti2 gets it or not.

my home page I took what I believed was an exceptional post, which was very simple and to the point.

If he doesn't I will give him another one.
Remember the "fat is beautiful" slogan years ago?
Hey, if one wants to believe fat is beautiful they should have the right to be stupid. If government dictates on how we must think then that government is not a free society.

[Steve Van Doorn]

Edit:
Hey, if one wants to believe fat is beautiful they should have the right to be stupid. If government dictates on how we must think then that government is not governing a free society.

[Nate505]

Drugs are much more addictive than alcohol and destroy lives much faster.

Tell that to my half-sister's mother. Who died from cirrhosis of the liver at 39 from excessive alcohol abuse.

Or to Samantha Spady, a Colorado State freshman who planned a night of heavy drinking on a labor day weekend who was found dead that Sunday with a BAC level of 0.436.

Not to mention alcohol is a drug.

[donna]

So, when your neighbors make meth, to sell to the neighborhood kids, you’ll clean up the chemical spill with your own money?

[Nate505]

Hahaha, I can’t believe that there are still people out there who think a “real” war on drugs would make a difference.

You cannot win a war on supply and demand if the supply is plentiful and the demand is there. And your side has proven totally inept at eliminating either of them, mostly because illicit drugs are fairly easy to produce and because there are millions of people who like to alter their consciousness in some way.

[dalereed]

DEA should monitor this thread for future busts!!

[Nate505]

“You can’t even type much hardly?” And you’re bashing others?

[Steve Van Doorn]

” Sometimes people need to be protected from idiocy. Why do you think DUI laws are in place even when people aren’t in a wreck? “

Libs love that argument. Almost everything is all or nothing with them.
For example: The DUI laws are rules ON the road. You shouldn’t have a right to be stupid while operating something that is dangerous such as a weapon or a car.
I am glad you put the ‘sometimes’ on the first part of your statement, I can agree with that.

[Nate505]

Those idiots would probably just bust down the wrong house and shoot a pet or two.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"You cannot win a war on supply and demand if the supply is plentiful and the demand is there."

yeah but they use the same arguments libs love to use. That the object(drug in this case) should never have been invented and with the use of laws they believe they can make it go away.

It is Utopian thinking.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

You can’t have freedom if you aren’t free to make less than the best choices for yourself and for your family.

The more freedom you have the more choices you have. That is the meaning of the Biblical passage of it being easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

A rich man has many choices, at least many more than the non-rich, an as a result he is more apt to make bad choices. It could even be argued that to be truly good one should have many bad choices to reject. It is easy to avoid choices which aren't available to you.

I, personally, think the War on Drugs has caused more societal upset than legalization would.

[DB]

Donna, you are missing the point.

First, why are neighbors going to make meth in a neighborhood house if they can buy it from a company that makes it better and cheaper.

Second, it is against the law now and some peoples neighbors are making meth right now and selling it to neighborhood kids right now and I am paying for “chemical spill” cleanups, raids on houses, prisons, and all the other damage that results from it right now and it is illegal. Exactly what has been accomplished.

You never answered the question.

Do you take mind altering drugs?

And if not why?

Somehow you manage not to choose to poison yourself law or no law. Why are you so certain that everyone else will choose to poison themselves if there is no law against it? Does that make you an elitist over everyone else because you know better while everyone else doesn't? Isn't that line of thinking what got us to the nanny state to begin with? When you give someone else the authority to decide what is best for you, you have not only given up your freedom, you have created the government we have today which Obama is just the continued extension of.