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Michael Moore: Do You Want Airline Pilots to Be Working Two Jobs?
Crooks and Liars ^ | Monday Oct 12, 2009 6:00pm | Susie Madrak

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:25:48 PM PDT by ozguy

Michael Moore's pointing out something no one in the media seems to want to discuss: How little money the people who are flying commercial planes are getting paid. As he says, these are not the people you want working a second job:

We're on the descent from 20,000 feet in the air when the flight attendant leans over the elderly woman next to me and taps me on the shoulder.

"I'm listening to Lady Gaga," I say as I remove just one of the ear buds. I know not this Lady Gaga, but her performance last week on SNL was fascinating.

"The pilots would like to see you in the cockpit when we land," she says with a southern drawl.

"Did I do something wrong?"

"No. They have something to show you." (The last time an employee of an airline wanted to show me something it was her written reprimand for eating an in-flight meal without paying for it. "Yes," she said, "we have to pay for our own meals on board now.")

The plane landed and I stepped into the cockpit. "Read this," the first officer said. He handed me a letter from the airline to him. It was headlined "LETTER OF CONCERN." It seems this poor fellow had taken three sick days in the past year. The letter was a warning not to take another one -- or else.

"Great," I said. "Just what I want -- you coming to work sick, flying me up in the air and asking to borrow the barf bag from my seatback pocket."

He then showed me his pay stub. He took home $405 this week. My life was completely and totally in his hands for the past hour and he's paid less than the kid who delivers my pizza.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ladygaga; michaelmoore; socialistweasel
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1 posted on 10/15/2009 11:25:49 PM PDT by ozguy
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To: ozguy

I want you to quit ordering so many french fries. I am sick of waiting in line.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 11:29:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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These new jets have auto pilot, can’t they help serve drinks?


3 posted on 10/15/2009 11:31:40 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (It always easier to find spelling errors after you post.)
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To: ozguy
Hey Susie:

...Lady Gaga plays a mean piano....

4 posted on 10/15/2009 11:39:16 PM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: ozguy
(The last time an employee of an airline wanted to show me something it was her written reprimand for eating an in-flight meal without paying for it. "Yes," she said, "we have to pay for our own meals on board now.")

Moore doesn't like paying, yet the pilots should be paid more money.

Such an idiot.

5 posted on 10/15/2009 11:41:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ozguy

I call total BS. Moore is a master of misleading propaganda.

Check out Airline Pilot Central. It has pay scales of Capts and FO for the different airlines.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 11:55:04 PM PDT by A message
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To: ozguy

Hey Michael, quit taking up two seats.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 12:06:02 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: ozguy

Isn’t it against the law for airlines to advertise their safety record? What if it weren’t? What if you could pay twice as much to fly on a ten times as safe airline?


8 posted on 10/16/2009 12:12:29 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Can I take El Al everywhere?


9 posted on 10/16/2009 12:15:09 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: ozguy

Sorry...but this pos pegs out the BS Meter.

Not buyin’ or believing any of it.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 12:17:20 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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Sorry...but this pos pegs out the BS Meter.


Here ya go...


11 posted on 10/16/2009 12:20:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Delta attendants don’t. (not while they are working)


12 posted on 10/16/2009 12:26:12 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy Mom)
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To: period end of story
And I care what a no talent skank says why?
13 posted on 10/16/2009 12:28:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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I thought the same thing... This is too good to be true for Moore who will no doubt spin this into more money, that evil capitalist..


14 posted on 10/16/2009 12:34:42 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: ozguy
It seems this poor fellow [pilot] had taken three sick days in the past year. The letter was a warning not to take another one -- or else.

Or else what?

If this letter does in fact exist he or his union has grounds for a lawsuit. Or even more intimidating to the company, an FAA judgment.

The FAA would love to hear about it, since that kind of pilot-pushing is blatantly illegal.

15 posted on 10/16/2009 12:35:51 AM PDT by zipper
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Havent looked at that site, but the pay scales vary a great deal, depending on what type of airline the pilot flies for. The “bigs” like United, etc. pay fairly well, but the regionals like United Express, Delta Connection, Horizon, and so forth, pay darn little. New pilots get on with the regionals and build time toward moving up to the “bigs”.

I still would doubt anything Moore says, though, just on principle. I’d be very surprised if that swine even flies commercial at all. He seems like the Gulfstream Liberal type to me.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 12:43:30 AM PDT by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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I call total BS. Moore is a master of misleading propaganda.

Check out Airline Pilot Central. It has pay scales of Capts and FO for the different airlines.

I did.

As much as I hate to agree with this big fat jerk, it's true that beginning pilots make slave wages.

You get what you pay for. Just don't fly with a regional airline that pays those kind of wages, especially if the weather is bad.

Oh wait, good luck with that. The code-sharing agreements nowadays almost always have the low-time pilot 'commuter airlines' feeding passengers to the bigger hubs, so it's not so easy to avoid flying on them.

17 posted on 10/16/2009 12:58:05 AM PDT by zipper
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The FAA would love to hear about it, since that kind of pilot-pushing is blatantly illegal.

Sorry. This stuff goes on all the time. The FAA does not get involved.
18 posted on 10/16/2009 1:14:10 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: ozguy

I am going to hate myself for saying this, but Moore is correct on this one. I have almost 30 years in the industry. Now I am going to take a shower and wash my mouth out with soap.


19 posted on 10/16/2009 1:15:49 AM PDT by safisoft
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"I have a second job!," the two pilots said in unison. One is a substitute teacher. The other works in a coffee shop. You know, maybe it's just me, but the two occupations whose workers shouldn't be humpin' a second job are brain surgeons and airline pilots. Call me crazy.

Well, if scum like Moore force government run health care down our throats, doctors may have to work two jobs also.

20 posted on 10/16/2009 1:25:32 AM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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