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To: sickoflibs

Your argument is illogical. You’re suggesting that candidates for president should not have to show their birth certificate because many past presidents didn’t have birth certificates? Why don’t you try that argument today. If you live in California, try applying for a US passport and tell them that you should not have to show your long form birth certificate (as is required in California) because people generations ago didn’t have birth certificates and yet they could still get passports. Or when your child signs up for little league in San Dimas, just tell them that your child shouldn’t have to show their birth certificate because a hundred years ago hardly any one had a birth certificate and they could still play sports.

Logic tells a person that if you’re required to prove something, you should also be required to provide the best evidence. Today, a birth certificate is the best evidence of a person’s birth and in the special case of Obama, a person without a single parent who could legally confer US citizenship, it is an absolute necessity in proving not only that he’s a natural born citizen, but that he’s even a citizen at all!


96 posted on 10/27/2009 7:25:11 AM PDT by jay099
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To: jay099; null and void; wannabegeek; Genoa
RE :” Your argument is illogical. You’re suggesting that candidates for president should not have to show their birth certificate because many past presidents didn’t have birth certificates?...Today, a birth certificate is the best evidence of a person’s birth and in the special case of Obama,

No, I am not arguing that. I am arguing that he was already elected president 2008 (not a candidate AS you suggest) in another humiliating defeat for republican party. So making up a requirement (long form) that does not presently exist as a requirement to NULL and VOID an election, and claiming the that requirement is in ‘the constitution’ when it isn't, and claiming you are only defending ‘the constitution’ as if you are the only one that cares about the constitution, is nonsense that everyone sees through.

Now if you somehow made the case BEFORE the election, and it was effective, and you actually had some proof in hand, it might have been different

97 posted on 10/27/2009 7:54:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: jay099
If you live in California, try applying for a US passport and tell them that you should not have to show your long form birth certificate (as is required in California) because people generations ago didn’t have birth certificates and yet they could still get passports.

I applied for a passport in California using my Illinois birth certificate, a short form that looks pretty much exactly like the Hawaii short form, with no more or less information on it. The guy at the passport office didn't question it. What isn't acceptable is a document that California issues called a Certified Abstract of Birth, because it lists the place the certificate was issued as the place of birth.You can find the information about what the State Dept accepts and doesn't accept here.

105 posted on 10/27/2009 8:47:15 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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