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Citizens: Forest enforcement harsh [Cops busting kids for pot in Colorado]
Aspen Daily News ^ | 10/28/09

Posted on 10/28/2009 4:10:31 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker

Intensified law enforcement at campgrounds around Aspen last month has triggered complaints of illegal search-and-seizures and youth profiling.

Kevin Walczak, 26, said he and his girlfriend were sitting around a campfire enjoying a few beers and a smoke when U.S. Forest Service law enforcement officers rolled up and turned a peaceful time in the woods into an interrogation.

“We had a roll-your-own cigarette. That’s what we smoke. We were sharing it, passing it back and forth. All it was is tobacco. Suddenly two officers walk into our campsite, don’t introduce themselves, shine flashlights so we couldn’t see them, we were blinded by the light more or less,” he said. “They asked about our cigarette, wanting to know what it was and they asked to look into our tobacco pouch.”

The officers eventually found what appeared to be a marijuana pipe in the cup holder of one of Walczak’s camping chairs. They then went and searched both Walczak’s and his girlfriend’s vehicles and allegedly found another marijuana pipe.

“They invaded our camp,” said Walczak, adding that he didn’t think he or his girlfriend had ever given consent for the officers to search the campsite or their vehicles. They both ended up getting cited for possession of marijuana, a federal offense. He said neither of the alleged marijuana pipes contained anything in them other than white ash.

(Excerpt) Read more at aspendailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: police; pot

1 posted on 10/28/2009 4:10:32 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker

I’d say it is pretty dangerous to walk into someones camp unannounced. The first thing I’m thinking is that the one(s) entering the camp are up to no good. ANYTHING could happen at that point.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 4:14:24 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: NativeNewYorker

Free country?


3 posted on 10/28/2009 4:14:28 AM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Didn’t a judge, in a similar case awhile back, rule that even a “campsite” is considered your home (albeit a temporary one) and thus subject to the usual search-and-seizure requirements?

At the very least, not announcing themselves as cops oughta be grounds for dismissal, no?


4 posted on 10/28/2009 4:19:01 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: NativeNewYorker

The U.S. Forest Service law enforcement ought to be defending our borders and federal property from illegal growers instead of harrassing citizens. There are too many LEO’s with too little to do other than harrass people.


5 posted on 10/28/2009 4:19:05 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

The “war on drugs” has produced much collateral damage, not the least of which is our freedom. I’m surprised they didn’t seize his house and car and then sell them at auction for the good of the state.


6 posted on 10/28/2009 4:26:04 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: NativeNewYorker

Aspen Jazz festival would be easy pickins for LEO.

Going after the users, however, is not going to solve anything.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 4:28:11 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Not to worry!

Obama will soon overturn the marijuana laws so everyone can get high all the time.

High people vote Democrat when they remember to vote and can find the polling station.

In an effort to help tokers vote, ACORN subsidiary, ObamaWeeWeed, will pick up you high dudes in the LOVE Bus and drive you to the polls.

While there will be no smoking on board the LOVE Bus, brownies and cookies will be served *WINK* *WINK*.

8 posted on 10/28/2009 4:33:26 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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To: caver
There are too many LEO’s with too little to do other than harrass people.

My wife and I hike regularly in GSMNP, along with several state parks and wilderness areas here in TN, and also in NC and GA. We hike several dozen times a year and have for over 10 years. It is exceedingly rare to see a Ranger out on the trail, despite numerous cases over the past few years where hikers have been assaulted, robbed, raped, and in several incidences, murdered. It was happening so much that the State of Tennessee now allows CC in parks. However, if you happen to park in the wrong spot or momentarily have a pet off the leash in the parking lot of a trail head and a Ranger sees you, expect a ticket.

9 posted on 10/28/2009 4:36:38 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Thermalseeker

Agreed! My wife and I also hike the Smokies. We have covered about 300 miles of the 800 or 900 miles in the park. We have owned two different homes there, but live in Indiana. As you say I’ve never seen a ranger on the trail, but they will come into your campsite to check you out. We were checked out once having a picnic lunch by the road/creek. They guy was just being nosy.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 4:41:34 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

It becomes more and more “us and them” with cops in this country every day ... between the war on drugs and the war on terror any gung-ho cop can ruin anyone’s day if they don’t have anything better to do.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 4:43:05 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

“They both ended up getting cited for possession of marijuana, a federal offense. “

I’d like to see what ‘evidence’ the officers have to charge them with this. A pipe isn’t evidence. Even ash isn’t evidence.


12 posted on 10/28/2009 5:08:59 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

By the way, does anyone else think it’s silly that federal officers are patrolling the wilderness to hunt for pot smokers? I mean that just seems a little absurd to me.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 5:10:00 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: spodefly

Or need a self esteem boost.


14 posted on 10/28/2009 5:13:15 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
They both ended up getting cited for possession of marijuana, a federal offense.

a federal offense ??

15 posted on 10/28/2009 5:19:46 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

If they’re on federal land, it’s possible. And most of that part of the country is federal.


16 posted on 10/28/2009 5:22:58 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: caver
The U.S. Forest Service law enforcement ought to be defending our borders and federal property from illegal growers ...

Too dangerous. /s

17 posted on 10/28/2009 5:23:46 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: NativeNewYorker
If they’re on federal land, it’s possible.

If the land is a Federal Reservation, where complete sovereignty was either never surrendered to the state, or has been given back, then the Federal Government has the same police power as a state would. I've seen a couple of guys with Federal DWIs, because they were arrested on the National Seashore on Padre Island, Texas.

It is not enough that the Federal Government own the land. Walking into a field office owned by the Department of Agriculture with a joint in your pocket is not a Federal crime.

18 posted on 10/28/2009 5:32:33 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

Most of the land in that part of the Rockies is “national forest” and/or under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management.


19 posted on 10/28/2009 5:43:36 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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