Skip to comments.Tough Road Ahead for Dems After Vote Passes
Posted on 11/07/2009 9:18:01 PM PST by truthandlife
Listening to the debate on the floor today, it was clear that Democrats considered it a moral and ideological obligation to pass this billconsequences be damned. The leadership is congratulating itself nowPelosi is already the greatest speaker of all time apparentlybut there's a tough rough ahead in the Senate. Pelosi could lose 39 votes. Reid can't lose any. Passage in the House definitely creates more pressure on Reid to get it done, but the slender margindespite the size of the Democratic majority in the House and all the arm-twisting and deal-making (what did Cao get?)has to make Senate moderates even more nervous. There's a long string yet to be played out here, and it's still likely to stretch into next year, by which time Pelosis historic accomplishment of Nov. 7 may look foolish.
CA-36 Harman, Jane [D]
CA-47 Sanchez, Loretta [D]
To think these two were ever “blue dogs” is laughable.
Of course it'll pass the House because by tradition the House is the faster of the two deliberative bodies.
The communists party will change the rules. It will pass with 50 and Biden.
The consequences need to be extremely painful. The government is out of control, passing this against the will of the majority of citizens as well as perpetrating an unconstitutional act has rendered them illegitimate. We should show them the respect they deserve which is none. Don't sign up, don't pay the fines, and get ready to rumble if it comes to it.
I couldn’t believe my eyes. My stomach just completely twisted when I saw the number reach 218.
Once this is passed into law, there will be no undoing it.
We are about to live in a new Amerika, and I don’t want to be a part of it.
“Be it by ballot or by bullet, this pack of lying sons of b****es has to go.”
Yep..either way, it matters not to me anymore. These collectivist, unconstitutional, godless, immoral, self important human stains need to go.
“When our own political system breaks down into violent war, its all lost. Civil war is anti-democratic. I cant picture myself preparing for war against americans for political reasons. I would feel like I am contributing to the problem.”
Whatever, hide in the sand or pick a damn side. Be useful or not.
You can’t veto anything after you’ve been impeached
This makes my mouth water! I would love to make that a stipulation for voting in the new seats in 2010 - that those who get voted in MUST begin impeachment proceedings immediately!
Who cares if it’s passed into law. Just refuse it. Don’t pay the fines, and kick their ass if they show up at your house. There’s 535 of them and two POS in the white house, there are millions of us.
We never repealed Social Security or Medicare; if Obamacare passes, it, like every other major entitlement, will only expand.
Where do I start? We're not a democracy, we're a representative republic.
We survived a civil war 150 years ago, and were better for it.
The military is probably the best equipped to protect the Constitution. Then we can sort all this out.
Honestly, do you want to live like a Canadian (I did, for seven years) or worse, a European, when it comes to the health of your family?My son is 12. I'll fight physically to let him have at least half the life I've had. I was born in 1963. The '70s were very good to me, but my kid is facing a world of hurt. I'll do whatever it takes to prevent him from living under this kind of government control.
You first, hotshot. whaddya gonna do? turn timothy mcveigh? Build a waco compound?
“The current Congress reminds me of a Power Puff Girls villain, cockroach man a huge creature really composed of many tiny cockroaches. Each member who voted for this bill is a cockroach. Defeat them individually, then sanitize their breeding grounds the schools to prevent a reinfestation.”
The productive members of society need to go on strike and start demanding free shit. Free homes, free cars, free cable, whatever. Let’s act just like them and see how they pay for it all.
You can beat up the folks we have on our side or fight the ones we must defeat.
We can afford to be shut of a few really bad eggs but the vast majority of the Republicans in Congress have hung tough over and over and over again since the beginning of the year.
And, frankly, despite the loss in NY23, I really feel that the Republicans were buoyed by the ferocity and power of the Hoffman campaign. And that in spite of the fact that Hoffman was stiff as a board and looked like a doe in the head lights when it came to being on camera. A real Republican would have won this handily.
The fact is that Conservatives are going to have to raise hundreds of millions of dollars or more and target this for maximum effect. We have to convert backslapping Tea parties into sign planting, electioneering juggernauts that make even Nancy Pelosi's home district not be a safe bet.
And Senators like Dodd, and Reid should feel that running is a march into futility.
Even more so, we have to learn how to split the Democrat base. A loss of 10% of their current support from any segment will finish them.
The poor are going to suffer the most from all that Obama is doing. They think he cares about them, but ask the folks in Chicago who lived in the tenements he said he was going to fix, or the folks who Michelle sent packing to another hospital. Like the aliens in "V", this guy promises the moon but it turns out, the moon isn't a good place to live even for one second.
AZ-4 Pastor, Edward [D]
AZ-5 Mitchell, Harry [D]
AZ-7 Grijalva, Raul [D]
AZ-8 Giffords, Gabrielle [D]
ARIZONA VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE !!!!!!!!!!!
That takes more votes than a simple veto override.
Thank you! BOOKMARKED!!!
“I feel sick. All of us veterans swore an oath to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. Pelosi is a domestic enemy.”
Indeed, but all rats along with Rinos, illegals demanding free bennies etc need to be included in the domestic enemy category. Pelosi isn’t the only one, she’s just the blood sucking vampire queen of the parasite class.
Hope you’re right.
But this wasn’t supposed to pass the House...and it did.
A conservative was leading in NY 23 in most polls before the election...he lost.
And there are many other examples of “it won’t happen” happening.
Numbers matter. That’s the country we live in. Majority rules.
After the next census, we won’t have a prayer.
You do your screen name, tagline and homepage a huge disservice.
Republicans will do absolutely nothing. Who the hell cares if the Dems get voted out.
Old folks better wake up. This bill is a repeal of both Social Security and Medicare.
If you don't understand ask Rahm Emanuele's brother.
You aren't going to live long enough to collect it.
“I sure hope youre right.”
Hope ain’t enough.
We gotta turn the heat up beyond even what it has been.
We have to make it HOT AS THE SUN!
BWAHAHAHA! Yeah, sure. That's why we have Affirmative Action, CAIR, gay marriage and abortion.
Are you that naive?
I am glad we can count on you do to what ever it takes to save our freedoms. We need every single person in the surrender chorus that we can find.
Lol...Well, we don’t want to set fire to the ones that no on universal healthcare and cap and trade, the rest though...hmmm :-)
I’m being practical. My eyes are opened.
We are a minority and when a minority imposes it’s will on the majority, the result is not democracy or freedom...even if it is done for their own good.
it’s late and I’m tired. Maybe I’ll see it different tomorrow.
Yeah, whatever you say.
You are too optimistic. This bill will be passed in the senate.
OMG, then I guess you agree with every Communist and Fascist regime in history.
None of them had a majority following.
He’s a quisling, and then some.
Oh sure, majority doesn’t mean anything.
That’s what the dutch south african people used to say.
That's an interesting point. I wonder if (assuming this monstrosity comes to pass) perhaps the 'parasite class' might just swamp the system right off. Sort of a Cloward-Piven effect in reverse, or like the old saying..."put a beggar on a horse and he'll ride it to death."
No, I haven’t surrendered. The Republican Party surrendered long before this, led by the idiot Bush.
If you think voting out the Dems will somehow change this crap, you are delusional.
That might work :)
I think you just agreed with me.
Yeah, I'm sure the Russian people were all fired up to defend Stalin, right. It was a terror regime that kept them in line. That's what's coming here. Have you not even been following the Fort Hood story? Wake up!
I think not. Comparing us to those animals is beyond the pale.
“...or like the old saying...”put a beggar on a horse and he’ll ride it to death.”
Indeed, they’ll ride it to death all right. Unfortunately, it will be after all our economic deaths since were going to be picking up the tab. All I have to say is if the POSTUS, VP, and Congress aren’t forced into the very same plan, then we all just need to ignore it, period. Don’t sign up, hang up your phone if they call, don’t pay the fines...etc Let them arrest 100 million people.
WOW. I watched a lot of today's "debate" on the House floor. I missed that one...
“they care about the pork then can bring home. “
why, I vote against any representative that brings home pork.
The nutjob muslims are here to stay. They aren’t going anywhere. And they vote. that whackjob that shot the soldiers gets just as much say in government as you and I do. Well, after he gets convicted he won’t be voting anymore. But you can bet there will be lots of democrats that would like him to keep voting.
This is kind of my point...and it isn’t sinking into your skull. We are losing ground every year. We thought 8 years of bush was going to turn it all around. It didn’t.