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Obama orders Miranda rights in Afghanistan
examiner.com ^ | June 10, 2009 | David Leach

Posted on 11/17/2009 10:34:10 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Well, now we know why Obama doesn't use the term "war on terror" anymore - he doesn't consider terrorism an act of war. Instead, he has taken us back to the days of Bill Clinton, when terrorist acts were treated like a "crime."

In a story reported in The Weekly Standard , Representative Mike Rogers (R-Mich) is accusing the Obama administration of ordering the F.B.I. to read Miranda rights to detainees being held at U.S. military facilities in Afghanistan.

This is creating a great deal of damage on the battlefield, not to mention how it is affecting the security of our military men and women overseas. Said Rogers:

I witnessed it myself, talked to the people on the ground. What you have is two very separate missions colliding in the field in a combat zone. Again, anytime that you offer confusion in that environment that's already chaotic and confusing enough, you jeopardize a soldier's life.

Why would Obama issue such an order? It's all a part of a policy shift referred to as the new "global justice initiative," which was described in a May 28th Los Angeles Times article:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghan; bho44; impeachbho44; mirandarights; obama; war
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To: scgator

The Fort Hood shooter was on Obama’s homeland Security team, DEFINING our security?

Has THIS made the news?

I heard something like this maybe quite briefly when this story happened?!?

I glanced that document you posted and it is DISGUSTING!

Just ONE small observation: If all of those people listed there were DOWNSIZED we could feed Ohio and Michigan for 9 months!


41 posted on 11/17/2009 12:23:10 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

More than 60% of the Afghan population is illiterate.

According to British military charged with training Afghani police, more than 90% of the police are illiterate, and when told they would be taught how to fill out police reports during schooling, the Afghani police didn’t understand the concept of a classroom.

Over 10% of Afghani suffer from some form of TB.

Over 78% of the population do not have improved drinking water.

Over 70% of the population do not have santitation.

Mirandi Rights are the luxurious human rights afforded advanced societies once the vast majority of stakeholders have reached basic human rights and can afford through production surpluses to spend collectively some of the surplus to expand the civil rights of the upper classes.

There is a reason the Magna Carta was produced in England and not in central Poland.

The irrational chain of arguments concocted to justify and implement Miranda Rights in a 3rd world, substinence economy war zone displays a total lack of education, understanding and insight on the very foundations of Western concepts of human rights.

It further shows a complete lack of understanding of the basic underpinnings of economies, be it totalitarian OR laissez faire, the person who implemented this plan doesn’t understand the basic concept of the value of physical labor in society, and doesn’t understand the concept of value and wealth. Nor can they differentiate between the concepts of value and wealth. The persons responsible for this are not schooled in von Mises or Marx nor anywhere in the spectrum, they are unschooled and incoherent.

This also explains why Obama caved in to the Wall St crowd, he and his legalistic advisors are completely void of basic knowledge of economies, human rights, and the concepts of fair value of labor and the expenditure of wealth to protect the rights of the populace as a whole.

Krugman, Volcker and Goolsbee know better, I dare say they had no input on this policy decision.


42 posted on 11/17/2009 12:32:43 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: scgator

THE STORY YOU POSTED WILL BE BREAKING NEWS on a Charlotte NC Newspaper in five minutes.

Fort Hood Shooter was an advisor on Obama’s Homeland Security task force

http://www.examiner.com/x-19160-Bucks-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d15-Fort-Hood-Shooter-was-an-advisor-on-Obamas-Homeland-Security-Task-Force


43 posted on 11/17/2009 12:33:26 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The Enemy Sympathizer You Can Believe In


44 posted on 11/17/2009 12:34:19 PM PST by taraytarah (Our Constitution must be defended and protected from all domestic enemies.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Our village idiot loose on the world...


45 posted on 11/17/2009 12:35:06 PM PST by diji ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: scgator

BREAKING NEWS in a Charlotte NC Newspaper in five minutes.

Fort Hood Shooter was an advisor on Obama’s Homeland Security task force

http://www.examiner.com/x-19160-Bucks-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d15-Fort-Hood-Shooter-was-an-advisor-on-Obamas-Homeland-Security-Task-Force

DOCUMENT proof

http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/pttf_proceedingsreport_05.19.09.pdf


46 posted on 11/17/2009 12:36:42 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: 444Flyer; Nachum; sushiman

ping to post # 46


47 posted on 11/17/2009 12:37:55 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Ah, so foreign terrorists now have Miranda rights and protections as affored by the US Constitution?

....and what Constitutional right grants Raila Odinga's favorite cousin to make this policy?

48 posted on 11/17/2009 12:39:32 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: GI Joe Fan

It gets worse... see post # 46


49 posted on 11/17/2009 12:44:38 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: voveo

And we do what ? We write letters that are tossed, make calls that are ignored, attend protests that are ridiculed and marginalized, and provide our sons and daughters to be placed in harms way for an administration and a portion of our population that could care less.


50 posted on 11/17/2009 12:49:10 PM PST by gunner03
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To: scgator

Let’s see which news organizations pick this story up

Google this...

Fort Hood Shooter was an advisor on Obama’s Homeland Security task force


51 posted on 11/17/2009 12:50:14 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Thanks for the ping.

This is disgusting news.

The fact that a murderous terrorist like Hasan was part of any policy-making or advisory team IS DISGUSTING.

When will this be in the headlines?

52 posted on 11/17/2009 12:52:21 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: GI Joe Fan

go here

http://www.google.com/search?q=Fort%20Hood%20Shooter%20was%20an%20advisor%20on%20Obama%E2%80%99s%20Homeland%20Security%20task%20force&hl=en&ned=us&tab=nw

If you click News now, it is some media research center downplaying it, saying it is false and accusing Rush.I did not see any of this 20 minutes ago as nuts as this sounds...

It will probably break the news in 5 months like this article in this thread. No one cares.


53 posted on 11/17/2009 12:59:34 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

...does anyone truly think that Obama is serious about fighting this war and winning it?


54 posted on 11/17/2009 1:06:57 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: GI Joe Fan; 444Flyer; Nachum; sushiman

I see where it was posted on the net with links to the pdf document and when you click the document

http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf_

Media Matters is all over the place stating it is not true.

In this thread a FReeper posted the document.

Hasan’s name is suppose to be listed here but something tells me it was removed. Any credible stories on this were posted on the 15th and are now gone.

http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/pttf_proceedingsreport_05.19.09.pdf

Nothing too see here move along.So it is either a hoax or cover up.


55 posted on 11/17/2009 1:11:46 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Nidal Hasan is listed on page 32 of the report.


56 posted on 11/17/2009 1:19:25 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I see that. I was looking on pg. 28. as sourced and reported on the net.

I wonder why factcheck.org and mediamatters are all over the net denying it and calling Rush and WND liars?


57 posted on 11/17/2009 1:29:54 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Nachum

Is there a FR thread on this? I did not see it in a search.

Fort Hood Shooter was an advisor on Obama’s Homeland Security task force

Nidal Hasan

8th down LEFT column Page 32

http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/pttf_proceedingsreport_05.19.09.pdf


58 posted on 11/17/2009 1:39:41 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: A. Morgan

I prefer Bugs Bunny’s reply;”What a maroon”! What’s up,Doc?


59 posted on 11/17/2009 1:41:39 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Marine: Mr. Achmed we are here to search for IED’s and weapons.

Mr. Achmed: Do you have a warrant?

Marine: No, Sir.

Mr. Achmed:, Well then leave at once and don’t come back until you have a warrant.


60 posted on 11/17/2009 1:42:59 PM PST by Rebelbase (End Jihad: Weaponize Pork.)
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