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To: winoneforthegipper; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; neverdem; Robert A. Cook, PE; Myrddin; ...
“”””””I concede all of your points but add one other thought. It is my grandchildren I worry about and I suspect their grand children will find it exceedingly warm because sunspots will return and carbon abatement is only a game; It wont happen significantly in their lifetime AND IT WONT BE ENOUGH IN ANY CASE. HENCE _WE WILL NEED A GEOENGINEERING SOLUTION_ COME WHAT MAY! -gene””””””

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

NO MORE CALLS, PLEASE.

WE HAVE A SMOKING GUN.

Please save the page from the search which brought this up.

We need to save it for posterity PRONTO.

Cheers!

95 posted on 11/20/2009 6:32:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You beat me by two minutes. I was looking Mr. Gordon up.


97 posted on 11/20/2009 6:35:51 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Do I have to add a sarcasm tag?)
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To: grey_whiskers
I think I found ammo for your smoking gun:

Alan:

Thanks for the extensive and detailed e-mail. This is terrible but not surprising. Obviously I do not know what gives with these guys. However, I have my own suspicions and hypothesis. I dont think they are scientifically inadequate or stupid. I think they are dishonest and members of a club that has much to gain by practicing and perpetuating global warming scare tactics. That is not to say that global warming is not occurring to some extent since it would be even without CO2 emissions. The CO2 emissions only accelerate the warming and there are other factors controlling climate. As a result, the entire process may be going slower than the powers that be would like. Hence, (I postulate) the global warming contingent has substantial motivation to be dishonest or seriously biased, and to be loyal to their equally dishonest club members. Among the motivations are increased and continued grant funding, university advancement, job advancement, profits and payoffs from carbon control advocates such as Gore, being in the limelight, and other motivating factors I am too inexperienced to identify.

Alan, this is nothing new. You and I experienced similar behavior from some of our colleagues down the hall, the Bell Labs research people, in the good old days. Humans are hardly perfect creations. I am never surprised at what they can do. _I am perpetually grateful for those who are honest and fair and thankfully there is a goodly share of those._

-gene

98 posted on 11/20/2009 6:38:56 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Do I have to add a sarcasm tag?)
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To: grey_whiskers

lol....great minds and same finds....lol

my post from earlier...lol

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good stuff....!
Interesting here is this exchange. I would read the entire string of correspondence but this brief excerpt made me double take!

“”””””I concede all of your points but add one other thought. It is my

grandchildren I worry about and I suspect their grand children

will find it exceedingly warm because sunspots will return and

carbon abatement is only a game; It wont happen significantly

in their lifetime AND IT WONT BE ENOUGH IN ANY CASE. HENCE _WE

WILL NEED A GEOENGINEERING SOLUTION_ COME WHAT MAY!

-gene””””””

Here is a scientist completely calling out carbon credits as merely a game!!!!!!

The entire string though is truly fascinating! http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1037


104 posted on 11/20/2009 6:49:06 PM PST by winoneforthegipper (I will follow the "True North-star" and that's, Sarah!)
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To: grey_whiskers
I've been cruising search engines and it doesn't look like these emails are the smoking gun the first flush made them appear to be. The two men emailing here are consistent in saying that cap n trade are not a solution. They have criticized the carbon scam publically here.
107 posted on 11/20/2009 6:50:23 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Do I have to add a sarcasm tag?)
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Thanks ApplegateRanch, neverdem, grey_whiskers, and (for most of these) Ernest_at_the_Beach.
111 posted on 11/20/2009 7:02:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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