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JFK Theories; Oswald and Hasan
Pajamas Media ^ | November 22 | Ron Rosenbaum

Posted on 11/22/2009 8:32:25 AM PST by AJKauf

Any new theories? Where do you stand on the old theories? Is the Warren Report conclusion (for all the flaws in its investigation) beginning to worm its way into your heart?

Did the assassination change your life? Did it (and successive assassinations) change your vision of America? Your vision of the world? Or is it irrelevant that there’s still doubt warranted (pun intended). Irrelevant in toto? (the Latin word, not Dorothy’s dog).

I’ve been thinking about Oswald. I think he fired shots that day. I can’t be sure he was alone, although I haven’t been convinced by any of the conspiracy theories. More importantly I can’t be sure why he did it. He was somewhere on the spectrum between nutcase and ideologue, maybe a combination of both.

Like a certain other shooter of recent vintage. It’s a dangerous combination.

Anyway, I’m interested in what people think about or if they do. It is November 22nd, you know. ....

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1 posted on 11/22/2009 8:32:26 AM PST by AJKauf
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I still think it was a mob hit with some high level govt types trying to clumsily trying cover their connections after the fact.


2 posted on 11/22/2009 8:34:44 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: AJKauf
The president of the United States is killed on a friday. Two days later, the prime suspect is killed on national TV while in police custody. That fact has always struck me as just too weird. Add in the magic bullet, the loss of key pieces of evidence, etc. I dunno.
3 posted on 11/22/2009 8:42:07 AM PST by fhayek
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To: AJKauf

I’ve been up to the Sixth Floor and it doesn’t add up imo. Either Oswald was too nervous to take the obvious shot on Washington St. or he got a lucky last chance shot on Elm St. or there were other shooters. There is one thing for certain, we’ll never know the truth.


4 posted on 11/22/2009 8:46:30 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: AJKauf
I was in HS when Kennedy was murdered.

I've read all the books...except of course, wasting my time on the Warren Report.

No one - repeat NO ONE will every convince me that Kennedy was murdered by Oswald acting alone.

NO ONE!

5 posted on 11/22/2009 8:50:45 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: AJKauf

Read an anniversary article this morning which interviewed a 91-year-old former FBI agent who was present at the autopsy. He stated that he and the doctors all inspected a bullet hole in Kennedy’s left chest (in addition to the neck and head shots). I hadn’t heard of that before...


6 posted on 11/22/2009 8:52:07 AM PST by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: Senator Goldwater
I still think it was a mob hit with some high level govt types trying to clumsily trying cover their connections after the fact.

I wouldn't preclude his recently deceased alcoholic brother's involvement...

7 posted on 11/22/2009 8:56:25 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: AJKauf

Its America’s annual national conspiracy day!

Oswald killing Kennedy did change America. It gave us LBJ!


8 posted on 11/22/2009 8:57:49 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Logic n' Reason
I've been a student of this assassination also and you are not alone in your belief.
9 posted on 11/22/2009 8:58:24 AM PST by mcshot (Our White Hut is not made up of the best and brightest, but they are practiced criminals.)
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To: AJKauf

I think Oswald was the lone shooter...but, his Russia connections and quick murder make me believe somebody else was behind it.


10 posted on 11/22/2009 9:03:54 AM PST by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: Reagan Man
Oswald killing Kennedy did change America. It gave us LBJ!

And IMO, that's exactly why he was killed. Kennedy just wasn't socialist enough.

11 posted on 11/22/2009 9:04:15 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker
My sarcasm aside. IMO, there is no difference between JFK and LBJ, RFK and TFK. Liberalism is progressive by its nature.
12 posted on 11/22/2009 9:13:53 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: AJKauf

Though I don’t think Oswald was involved in the assassination and was merely a patsy, I see similarities between him and Obama in their extensive travel with no visible means of support.


13 posted on 11/22/2009 9:19:12 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: mcshot
I've been a student of this assassination also and you are not alone in your belief.

I believe that 65% of those that even care anymore have the same beliefs.

Unfortunately, beliefs are all we have at this point.

On the "good news" front....I'm old. So I'll soon die. Right after that event...I'll know for sure!!

If you send me $25 in cash...I promise to come back and let you know what I find out!!! (joke!).

Hang in...

14 posted on 11/22/2009 9:24:07 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: Reagan Man
Oswald killing Kennedy did change America. It gave us LBJ!

Yes it did! And that slob, that SOB sent my butt to Southeast Asia!

15 posted on 11/22/2009 9:26:22 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: AJKauf

We watched an interesting program last night on the History Channel - it broke down the 24 hours after JFK was killed and detailed all the infighting between the Kennedy crew and LBJ.
Attorney General RFK acted like a total a-hole of course, and Jackie received little assistance from anyone,having to lay on top of Jack’s corpse in the limo while the Secret Service was whisking Johnson to a secure room at Parkland.
The Dallas police didn’t want to release the body, and guns were drawn while the feds forced their way out of the hospital to Air Force One.


16 posted on 11/22/2009 9:38:45 AM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: Reagan Man

“Oswald killing Kennedy did change America. It gave us LBJ!”

I’ll never forget the look on LBJ’s face when he was being sworn in. He looked like the cat that ate the canary.


17 posted on 11/22/2009 9:39:11 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: dainbramaged

The Dallas police didn’t want to release the body, and guns were drawn while the feds forced their way out of the hospital to Air Force One.


I spent the years 81-88 at Parkland - this piece of info is dead on accurate - people still talk about this happening. The Dallas County Medical Examiner initially said - “This death occurred in Dallas County - so the autopsy will be in Dallas County”. The Secret Service with automatic weapons drawn stated that this was not how it was going to go down. People still talked about rounding a corner and some armed guy pointing a weapon at them.


18 posted on 11/22/2009 9:45:03 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Senormechanico
LBJ thought he was on course to be FDR2. Vietnam screwed up his plans. Can't wait for Obama to get his comeuppance. Paybacks are he!!!
19 posted on 11/22/2009 9:46:01 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: AJKauf

Oswald alone. He was a left wing commie radical with delusions of grandeur, when he finally came back from Russia he was expecting massive throngs of reporters, what he got was NOTHING. He tried to commit suicide the first time the Russians wanted to send him back to America.

He had tried to assassinate Right Wing General Walker a short time before he got the opportunity to shoot Kennedy.

Oswald was a bad shot MYTH, his records are available, he was a Sharpshooter, a better than average shot for a Marine and compared to the General Public, an excellent shot. His worst field performance was his last one when he was disillusioned with the Marines and trying to get out.

He was an open Communist in the Marines, the other Marines took to calling him “Oswaldski” which he took a liking to. He was regarded by most of the other Marines as a flake.

The shooting from the Texas School Book Depository was not that hard and has been recreated numerous times. The rifle was FINE, another myth.

There were 2 employees from the TSBD one floor directly below when the assassination took place. They testified to hearing BOOM, click, click BOOM, click click BOOM. They testified to the action of Oswald’s rifle long before Oswald’s rifle was found. They reported this right away, it’s part of the reason the TSBD was being swarmed after the shooting. A parade watcher who was facing the TSBD SAW the shooter in the window.

Computer recreations have proven that the shots came from Oswalds perch.

The “magic bullet” wasn’t magic at all, when placing the occupants properly in the limo the way they were at the shooting, the shots line up perfectly. Another myth.

Ruby was known as a braggard and blowhard, the absolute LAST person the mafia or anyone else would involve in a grand conspiracy to kill the POTUS. He thought he was going to be an American hero for killing Oswald, he thought no one would convict him. Oswald was delayed being moved, if he was moved on time Ruby wouldn’t have had a chance, he got there just as Oswald was being moved, pure luck. Ruby was a known CLOWN, not some mafia bigwig.

So many myths, so little time.

All these criss crossing conspiracies involving so many people.

The JFK assassination is NO DIFFERENT FROM 9/11.

There is overwhelming evidence that OSWALD and ISLAMICS both did the crimes.

Still Millions get sucked into the vortex instead of looking at it rationally, if people would take time to dissect the conspiracy theories about JFK the way they did with 9/11 conspiracy theories they would come to the same conclusion.

Oswald and the Terrorists are both obviously guilty and any other position is simply ridiculous.


20 posted on 11/22/2009 9:50:45 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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