Posted on 11/23/2009 12:24:50 PM PST by moonpie57
Edited on 11/23/2009 3:46:03 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
This precious little one is going to BE Christmas this year, is she not? Stay strong there, dad. God is a God of love and compassion, and He wants your Emma back in your arms. Chin up!
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Wrong. Did you miss where I said those who can take care of themselves should under penalty of law? We do not need some Obama/Pelosi/Reid boondoggle trillion dollar bill to help those who can’t.
It’s called Christian charity and worked very well in this country for many years.
Your reasoning is clear but unconvincing to most, I expect, because, on this issue, everyone wants to have his cake and eat it too.
If healthcare is a human right and a collective responsibility, then the decisions concerning what care to provide will also be collective. And all will get what the collective decides. Except, of course, for the rich, who will get whatever they want.
But if healthcare is another economic transaction, then decisions might remain between the patient, the family, and a trusted doctor, but some will get more and better care than others.
I prefer that we move in the direction of greater individual choice and responsibility. But that’s my predeliction generally.
“...I said those who can take care of themselves should under penalty of law?”
You mean like an individual mandate to purchase government-approved health insurance?
Thanks to 40+ years of liberal policies we are not there right now.
The Child however is (was) dying now.
So if the parent(s) cannot afford to pay and the coffers of charity are dry, what do you advocate?
I guess the question would be do you advocate pulling the plug based on cost.
The next question is what do you propose to do until we can reverse 40 years of liberal policy, what do we do until deregulation and taxes release the charitable world from it's grasp and the old balance returns?
Do you propose for those who fall into this gap that has and will continue to occur until we correct the situation a “too bad so sad” approach?
Do you say sorry, we the tax payers, the ones who sat here for 40 plus years and let us get in this situation now say that you will just have die because we have not fixed it yet.
Are you, as indicated by being so strong in you argument at this time in this thread about a child dying due to monetary concerns, saying that Alan Grayson and others on the left are correct, we Conservatives are heartless bastards more concerned with money and even more so concerned with being right that we could care less about people?
If so, please, do conservatism and the rest of us who want the Government totally out of the business of health care a favor and say nothing more on the subject. The left is working hard enough to paint us as cold and unfeeling as a means to further their agenda, we don't need folks on our side proving them right.
Jeff, your family is in my prayers. I hope she is home by Christmas!
I called and left a voicemail at this so-called children’s hospital. Sickening does not even begin to describe the abuse this child is being subjected to. The treatment of this entire family is.....it is just beyond words. I hope CPS is able to look into this and this family finds a great lawyer.
Thanks. Actually, Emma is my daughter's child. I'm "Papa".
The Bottom Line is that this one child is not more precious than any other child in the country and we know that as a society, we cannot afford to provide healthcare and critical medical treatment to every child.
Therefore, the tax payers should not be on the hook for this one child that has been deemed so special, but rather the family needs to raise the cash to pay the hospital bills.
I am sorry that you view me as a “heartless bastard,” but you are advocating a system of Socialized Medicine and I will stand by my principles and oppose any effort to force the tax payer to shell out the cash for everyone’s medical care.
I am all for any Christian Charity, Jewish Charity, Muslim Charity and secular charity that wishes to donate money to help save this child's life.
However, the medical care of this child, nor any other child, should not be the responsibility of the American tax payer.
And if the family and charities cannot raise the funds needed to care for this child, that responsibility should not fall on the American tax payer.
The hospital personnel do as they are instructed by higher-ups. Ther American people can’t understand something as basic as this being active murder any more than they could grasp the significance of starving Terri of FL to death.
The American people no longer understand the word “barbarian”.
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