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Free Republic does not and will not support RINOS!! Not now!! Not ever!!
My day after Thanksgiving message | 11/26/200 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t think so.... I did have my own kids do outside reading. Freedom —don’t think that was explained too much unless it related to slavery.


1,921 posted on 11/28/2009 2:57:57 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: XenaLee

Newt never backed down from his support from Scozzafava. He didn’t even back down after she dropped out. He tried to put a happy face on it, but that was all. I can’t give you a link without a very time consuming trip back through threads and searches, but the facts are well known.

As to the blame for the NRCC members who appointed her, I’ve seen that on FR as well. But Newt being such a big name in Republican circles, he caught the brunt of the criticism, and rightly so in my estimation. Newt has been held as the father of contemporary conservatism. That stems from his speakership and his involvement in the Contract With America. But as others have pointed out, his dipping into the GW Kool Aid, his dealings with Pelosi, his misguided support for such a flaming liberal as Scozzafava, he’s lost his aura and is no longer a favorite around here.


1,922 posted on 11/28/2009 2:58:14 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Darksheare

Been down by the flood control dam lately?


1,923 posted on 11/28/2009 2:59:14 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

That’s kinda what I thought too. It goes along with the libs whole “gotta rewrite history” thing


1,924 posted on 11/28/2009 3:01:25 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: XenaLee

Is there a newt thread somewhere you could maybe visit? This ain’t a newt thread.
BUT what is it about calling conservatism dead, being a global warming supporter, supporting a candidate who coddles pedophiles and votes in favor of gay marriage don’t you understand?
What is it about going on Hannity and saying we had a right to be angry, and two days later he was defending scozzafava again has escaped your attention?
Did you also misss his dissing of Rush? I mean, come on. He has become what he campaigned against before he became what HE considers the defacto party leader and an elitist to boot. If we don’t follow HIS pearls of wisdom, WE are just the great,stupid, unwashed. Newt was a man for his time. His time has passed. Now he is seeking relevancy, and even if he is wrong, provably so, he defends his wrongness by calling everyone who disagrees with him wrong.
It’s sad.


1,925 posted on 11/28/2009 3:02:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: hiredhand
This has been one doozie of a thread!

You can say that again. I'm frankly surprised I haven't received a time suspension for some of the things I've said. But, I take it for only so long...

And congrats on your summation. It is a fine read and well stated. My hat is off to you.

1,926 posted on 11/28/2009 3:04:52 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: hiredhand

I was hoping jimrob would show back up, maybe he got his fill of it last night. You guys are awesome...glad to be by your side.


1,927 posted on 11/28/2009 3:05:22 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: little jeremiah

Well, I haven’t seen any evidence of Newt wanting the other side to like him. I did read his explanation on why the ad and it sounded logical to me (http://newt.org/tabid/193/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3351/Default.aspx). HE sounds logical to me. Unless or until someone can provide me with solid proof that he’s a DemocRat @ss kisser, I’ll have to respectfully disagree and refute.

Newt brought us Contract With America during the worst eight years this country has been through (IMO) ....(ahem, the worst so far). I just find it hard to believe that he could be magically transformed from a solid conservative to a RINO that easily and quickly.... and just because a few of you guys ‘say so’.

I’m am sooo not convinced, and God knows, we need all of the conservatives on our side that we can get. If Newt is really one of us, we need him. I’m going to get to the bottom of this. Some how. Some way.


1,928 posted on 11/28/2009 3:05:51 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well if you’re going to throw out every Rep that chooses party (Republican Party, that is) loyalty over ...(what’s the alternative you’re expecting from him?)...

what’s gonna be left? Zip, Zilch and Nada.

So, according to you anti-Newters, Newt should have told the NRCC to F-off then. Right? Is that how you would have played it? Really? Cause I’m not even seeing you freepers blaming the NRCC. Just Newt.


1,929 posted on 11/28/2009 3:10:11 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Not necessarily.


1,930 posted on 11/28/2009 3:11:43 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee
Newt believes himself to be a leader. Who and what Scazzafava is is out there. A Leader would have checked who he was backing. Newt either didn't check or did and was ok with a Rino. That is NOT a Conservative leader.
1,931 posted on 11/28/2009 3:15:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: XenaLee
So, according to you anti-Newters, Newt should have told the NRCC to F-off then. Right? Is that how you would have played it? Really? Cause I’m not even seeing you freepers blaming the NRCC. Just Newt.

I already said there were posts on FR condemning the actions of the NRCC. There were numerous ones. But Newt and the NRCC both have a dog to hunt in this issue, and neither one trumps the other. The NRCC was wrong to appoint Scozzafava in the first place, and Newt was equally wrong in blindly backing her; especially in the face of determined opposition. Both actions deserve condemnation from conservatives. Both received condemnation. And that's the end of the story.

1,932 posted on 11/28/2009 3:15:35 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
It's perfectly ok with me if you can't back up your opinion with facts and/or logic and reason. I completely understand that 'some' posters here have problems with that.
1,933 posted on 11/28/2009 3:16:27 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: bcsco

How can it be the end of the story if Newt is a RINO? And if he isn’t a RINO, then he’s being unfairly targeted.

I just want to find out the truth and the ‘why’. I’m funny that way.


1,934 posted on 11/28/2009 3:18:18 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Thank you ~Kim4VRWC’s~. If you’d like to ping folks to it, be my guest. I don’t generally like to ping folks in on my comments directed to one Freeper, unless it is soundly germane to the thread.

I do think it related a very important message to those who write off states, but that’s my take on it.

I do appreciate that you seem to agree. I think it’s important.


1,935 posted on 11/28/2009 3:18:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: hiredhand

Yes.

Courage is the test of all virtues. (C.S. Lewis said that.)

Without courage, RINO supporters may as well be enablers and assistants of leftists, because that is exactly what they turn out to be.

RINOS are worse than outright leftists, because they are just gradual leftists, while pretending to be something else. It’s better to be honest than sneaky.


1,936 posted on 11/28/2009 3:18:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: hiredhand; DJ MacWoW; ~Kim4VRWC's~

“This has been one doozie of a thread!”

It surely has, but a lot of things that needed saying have been said here.
You know, the whole 6 months I was on the state message board arguing with a poster called Harvey, we never, ever disrespected each other no matter how intense our debate was, and most of us on this thread have also been respectful of each other, with a couple notable exceptions, which I believe was by design.
Thankfully, even with their constant disruptions, the meat of this thread is potent. We need to solidify our ideas, design a strategy or strategies, and move on them...like DJ’s idea, for example.
It’s a VERY good idea. Most of us have been sending back their begging letters with witticisms in or on them, but we haven’t really written letters they would read.


1,937 posted on 11/28/2009 3:19:22 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I was hoping jimrob would show back up, maybe he got his fill of it last night. You guys are awesome...glad to be by your side.

Yes....same here. I was also hoping Jim Rob would show up again. Everybody has something to say to him though and I'll bet he has a hard time keeping up under such circumstances. I'm GLAD you are by my side! :-)
1,938 posted on 11/28/2009 3:22:19 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: XenaLee
My post was perfectly clear and reasoned. Newt either endorsed someone without knowing where they stood on issues or he checked and backed someone who supports card check, the big dollar stimulus and her dalliances with the far-left Working Families Party.

So do you believe that he backed someone without checking them? Or that he knew she's a lefty in disguise?

1,939 posted on 11/28/2009 3:22:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: XenaLee
I just want to find out the truth and the ‘why’. I’m funny that way.

Then go and search to your heart's content. Just don't ask anyone to do your work for you.

1,940 posted on 11/28/2009 3:23:43 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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