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WaPo’s Eilperin Blames Global Warming Skepticism Increase on 'Political Polarization'
Newsbusters ^ | November 28, 2009 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 11/28/2009 1:48:13 PM PST by Rufus2007

The global warming alarmists are beginning to lose the PR battle, at least that is what a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll is indicating. But this has the usual purveyors of climate change doom-and-gloom trying to rationalize the shift in public opinion.

The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin, who regularly has her objectivity called into question on the issue of anthropogenic global warming, attributed this to nothing more than political polarization. Eilperin, a former contributor for the left-of-center Huffington Post and wife of the liberal Center for American Progress' so-called "climate specialist" Andrew Light, appeared on MSNBC on Nov. 28 and offered that explanation.

"What you're seeing is increasing political polarization," Eilperin said. "What we've seen is from since three-and-a-half years ago where there was kind of an all-time high in terms of people believing in it. You've seen the biggest drop among Republicans by about something like 22 points, and then independents dropped less than that and then with Democrats, it was a much smaller drop - just about 6 points."

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Not a word about ClimateGate either...
1 posted on 11/28/2009 1:48:17 PM PST by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007
I just love it when libs try to ignore the 800lb Gorilla...


2 posted on 11/28/2009 1:53:21 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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WaPo’s Eilperin Blames Global Warming Skepticism Increase on 'Political Polarization'

No, I think P.T. Barnum was right regarding fooling people etc. However, the time for fooling people about the Global Warming / Climate Change scam is up.

3 posted on 11/28/2009 1:53:28 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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4 posted on 11/28/2009 2:04:41 PM PST by red-dawg
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if by ‘Political Polarization’ they mean seeing through blatant lieing fraudulent behaviour, then they’ve got me pegged...........


5 posted on 11/28/2009 2:05:51 PM PST by mreerm
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To: Rufus2007

Gone also are the days when libs could dismiss opposition to their liberal theology with a single word. Won’t work anymore.


6 posted on 11/28/2009 2:05:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Rufus2007
OK. Let's see if I understand the logic here.

If, for example, The Alarmists (don't you just love that name?) dream up some scare story that is totally unjustified by any scientific evidence. They get their story "peer reviewed" by the usual suspects. We, the Chosen Defenders of Liberty object and claim foul based on lack of scientific evidence. But The Alarmists counter that what we are doing polarizes society. Can't have that can we. Better to spend a few trillion dollars of your children's and grandchildren's money so that we don't have to live with that dreaded polarization.

Makes sense once you think it through.

7 posted on 11/28/2009 2:17:06 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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The sewer rats at Duh have their panties in a wad over ClimateGate. A couple of brave souls meekly pointed out their concern with the scientific validity of the globull warming religion and had their heads promptly chopped off.
8 posted on 11/28/2009 2:34:22 PM PST by Jacquerie (Support and defend our Beloved Constitution.)
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To: InterceptPoint

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2396028/posts
Geneva ravaged by anti-capitalism protestors

They burned cars...also smashed the windows of shops, bank and cafés.

They accuse the WTO of not doing enough to tackle climate change.

Yep...we’re the ones polarizing society........


9 posted on 11/28/2009 2:41:13 PM PST by mreerm
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You've seen the biggest drop among Republicans by about something like 22 points, and then independents dropped less than that and then with Democrats, it was a much smaller drop - just about 6 points."

Easy - many Republicans have seen or heard proof the whole thing's a fraud, fewer independents have and almost no democrats have even heard of ClimateGate. If liberals read something other than their own propaganda, they would feel like we do...

10 posted on 11/28/2009 2:46:24 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific fraud in history-James Lewis)
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To: InterceptPoint

I think you’ve quite nailed it.

There is no more horrific death man can contemplate than being polarized.

Ergo, destroying our currency, crushing our way of life and spending ourselves into 2 generations of slavery is just a drop in the bucket.


11 posted on 11/28/2009 2:54:32 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

She is just one reason that the WaPo has had to close down their LA, NY and other outposts contributing to the global stupidity.


12 posted on 11/28/2009 2:57:44 PM PST by Parmy
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To: Rufus2007; All
Over at our Canadian sister site, I've documented this -farce-- from the beginning, and in my opinion there are two reports that knock the whole AGW/Climate Change thing into the "phlogiston" realm of science-- they are on page 16, but I'll reproduce them in full here:-"Politics and Greenhouse Gases "--

Politics and Greenhouse Gases

Advocates and sympathetic politicians claiming that man-made global warming from use of carbon-based energy sources mandates international controls on economically prosperous nations were already worried that their victory is slipping. Now another blow has been struck against the basic "science" used to support their case. Following an extensive theoretical analysis, two German physicists have determined(pdf) that the term greenhouse gas is a misnomer and that the greenhouse effect appears to violate basic laws of physics.

To briefly review, the entire argument for immediate political action on carbon-based emissions rests upon three premises, formulated over the last twenty years by scientists affiliated with the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC):
1. The planet is experiencing worldwide atmospheric warming, threatening life as we know it.
2. This warming is unprecedented because average worldwide temperatures for at least a thousand years have shown no significant variation until the last seventy years, which correlates with a thirty-percent increase in carbon dioxide (CO2) gas generated by industrial activity.
3. Invoking a "greenhouse effect" model, the IPCC claims that CO2 exhibits a property involving special characteristics of long-wave energy absorption and radiation with altitude (called "radiative forcing") which accelerates near-surface warming and, as the CO2 quantity increases, spells planetary disaster unless reversed.
In an AT article posted September 27, I laid out the case for why the first two premises were flawed, if not outright fraudulent. Now, the IPCC "consensus" atmospheric physics model tying CO2 to global warming has been shown not only to be unverifiable, but to actually violate basic laws of physics.
The analysis comes from an independent theoretical study detailed in a lengthy (115 pages), mathematically complex (144 equations, 13 data tables, and 32 figures or graphs), and well-sourced (205 references) paper prepared by two German physicists(pdf), Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf Tscheuschner, and published in several updated versions over the last couple of years. The latest version appears in the March 2009 edition of the International Journal of Modern Physics. In the paper, the two authors analyze the greenhouse gas model from its origin in the mid-19th century to the present IPCC application.
The Greenhouse Model
The paper initially tackles the concept of thermal conductivity of the atmosphere (vital for any discussion of radiative heat transfer) and how it is affected by carbon dioxide, which, they point out, is a trace gas. The current estimated concentration of CO2 is 0.04% by volume and 0.06% by mass. Gerlich and Tscheuschner show that even if CO2 concentrations double (a prospect even global warming advocates admit is decades away), the thermal conductivity of air would not change more than 0.03% -- within the margin of measuring error.
The authors then devote nearly twenty pages to a detailed theoretical and experimental model analysis of the classic glass greenhouse. This model posits that glass surrounding a large volume of air allows solar radiation to pass through to heat the greenhouse surface and then selectively blocks resulting infrared energy from escaping. However, calculations show that no property of glass can adequately explain the temperature rise. Normal glass assumed in the model just cannot selectively screen and filter sufficient radiation energy by spectral absorption or reflection. Thus, assumption of a dominant radiative heating model must be incorrect.
Gerlich and Tscheuschner rely on referenced experimental evidence to show what is really going on. The dominant heat transfer mechanism is not radiation, but convection. Experimental evidence shows a greenhouse interior warms merely because the glass physically traps interior rising air, which then becomes warmer and warmer relative to air outside the greenhouse, which conversely can rise and cool unimpeded.
If the classic glass greenhouse model is obviously wrong, then this raises suspicions about the atmospheric "greenhouse effect" itself. The authors examine definitions of "greenhouse effect" by three respected sources (the Dictionary of Geophysics, Astrophysics, and Astronomy; the Encyclopedia of Astronomy and Astrophysics; and Encyclopedia Britannica Online). They show how each uses ill-defined global concepts (such as "mean temperature"), confuse infrared radiation with heat (they're different), incorrectly describe the physics inside a glass greenhouse, and use other terms unsupported by the laws of physics.
Surprisingly, the authors find that the term "atmospheric greenhouse effect" does not occur in any fundamental work or text involving thermodynamics, physical kinetics, or radiation theory. They then attempt to fill that void. They first derive the generalized equations a computer would have to solve to calculate an average radiative temperature for a rotating smooth globe without oceans (half exposed to the sun and half not) and inclined relative to the sun (as is Earth). They show that for a globe the size of Earth, even this simple non-convection model would be unsolvable by the most powerful computers available today or for the foreseeable future -- not only because of the quantity of calculations required, but also because of the impossibility of setting the initial boundary conditions at every point needed to even begin the calculation process.
Relevant Atmospheric Physics
Gerlich and Tscheuschner next show that even the simplest forms of the special equations needed for a true analysis of magneto-hydrodynamic (MHD) relationships involved in planetary atmospheric heating cannot be solved -- even for small-space regions and small-time intervals -- because of the inhomogenities of each fluid involved and relevant solid, liquid, and gaseous phases to be considered. The real world is just too complex.
However, they are able to show that MHD-type equations offer no terms corresponding to absorption of electromagnetic radiation, do not include equations for "radiative transfer," and give no indication of the point where the concentration of carbon dioxide would even enter into the computations. Further, they go on to show that any mechanism whereby CO2 in the cooler upper atmosphere could exert any thermal enhancing or "forcing" effect on the warmer surface below violates both the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics.
There are too many different transfer phenomena (radiative transfer, heat transfer, momentum transfer, mass transfer, energy transfer, etc.) and types of interfaces (static or moving) between solids, fluids, gases, plasmas, etc. for which no applicable scientific theory nor ability to determine boundary conditions exists. "Hence, the computer simulations of global climatology are not based on physical laws," the authors conclude (their emphasis). "Nevertheless, in their summaries for policymakers, global climatologists claim that they can compute the influence of carbon dioxide on the climate."
Dr. Roy Spencer, in his book Climate Confusion, points out how man-made global warming alarmists attempt to mislead the public by claiming that global CO2 emissions total about 50 billion tons per year while failing to acknowledge that the total weight of the atmosphere is 5 quadrillion tons. In other words, the 50 billion tons adds to 5 million billion tons, or a mere 10 parts per million -- relatively speaking, a trivial change each year.
Spencer shows how with oceans covering nearly seventy percent of Earth, water vapor and ocean currents totally dominate our global climate. He attributes oceanic and atmospheric circulation in the North Pacific as the dominant modern climate forcing mechanism. As for infrared radiation, Gerlich and Tscheuschner agree with earlier studies that water vapor is responsible for most of the IR absorption in the Earth's atmosphere. Thus, any infrared radiation absorbed by carbon dioxide represents only a tiny part of the full IR spectrum and is affected little by raising CO2 concentration.
Gerlich and Tscheuschner state without equivocation that there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effect which explains the relevant physical phenomena. They call the terms greenhouse effect and greenhouse gases "deliberate misnomers" and a "myth beyond physical reality" and conclude:
The point discussed here was to answer the question, whether the supposed atmospheric effect has a physical basis. This is not the case. In summary, there is no atmospheric greenhouse effect, in particular CO2-greenhouse effect, in theoretical physics and engineering thermodynamics. Thus it is illegitimate to deduce predictions which provide a consulting solution for economics and intergovernmental policy.
Thus, scientific support for the man-made global warming hoax slowly collapses while politicians rush to lock in massive international wealth-redistribution in its name. Those pesky "greenhouse gases" just don't behave in a politically correct manner.


And -"Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate] "--

Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

Physicist Howard Hayden, a staunch advocate of sound energy policy, sent me a copy of his letter to the EPA about global warming. The text is also appended below, with permission.

As noted in my post Access to Energy, Hayden helped the late, great Petr Beckmann found the dissident physics journal Galilean Electrodynamics (brochures and further Beckmann info here; further dissident physics links). Hayden later began to publish his own pro-energy newsletter, The Energy Advocate, following in the footsteps of Beckmann's own journal Access to Energy

I love Hayden's email sign-off, "People will do anything to save the world ... except take a course in science." Here's the letter:

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Howard C. Hayden785 S. McCoy DrivePueblo West, CO 81007

October 27, 2009

The Honorable Lisa P. Jackson, AdministratorEnvironmental Protection Agency1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW Washington, DC 20460

Dear Administrator Jackson:

I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."

It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.

The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.

Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.

We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.

Let me next address the horror story that we are approaching (or have passed) a "tipping point." Anybody who has worked with amplifiers knows about tipping points. The output "goes to the rail." Not only that, but it stays there. That's the official worry coming from the likes of James Hansen (of NASA­GISS) and Al Gore.

But therein lies the proof that we are nowhere near a tipping point. The earth, it seems, has seen times when the CO2 concentration was up to 8,000 ppm, and that did not lead to a tipping point. If it did, we would not be here talking about it. In fact, seen on the long scale, the CO2 concentration in the present cycle of glacials (ca. 200 ppm) and interglacials (ca. 300-400 ppm) is lower than it has been for the last 300 million years.

Global-warming alarmists tell us that the rising CO2 concentration is (A) anthropogenic and (B) leading to global warming.

(A) CO2 concentration has risen and fallen in the past with no help from mankind. The present rise began in the 1700s, long before humans could have made a meaningful contribution. Alarmists have failed to ask, let alone answer, what the CO2 level would be today if we had never burned any fuels. They simply assume that it would be the "pre-industrial" value.

  • The solubility of CO2 in water decreases as water warms, and increases as water cools. The warming of the earth since the Little Ice Age has thus caused the oceans to emit CO2 into the atmosphere.

(B) The first principle of causality is that the cause has to come before the effect. The historical record shows that climate changes precede CO2 changes. How, then, can one conclude that CO2 is responsible for the current warming?

Nobody doubts that CO2 has some greenhouse effect, and nobody doubts that CO2 concentration is increasing. But what would we have to fear if CO2 and temperature actually increased?

Consider the change in vocabulary that has occurred. The term global warming has given way to the term climate change, because the former is not supported by the data. The latter term, climate change, admits of all kinds of illogical attributions. If it warms up, that's climate change. If it cools down, ditto. Any change whatsoever can be said by alarmists to be proof of climate change.

In a way, we have been here before. Lord Kelvin "proved" that the earth could not possibly be as old as the geologists said. He "proved" it using the conservation of energy. What he didn't know was that nuclear energy, not gravitation, provides the internal heat of the sun and the earth.

Similarly, the global-warming alarmists have "proved" that CO2 causes global warming.

Except when it doesn't.

To put it fairly but bluntly, the global-warming alarmists have relied on a pathetic version of science in which computer models take precedence over data, and numerical averages of computer outputs are believed to be able to predict the future climate. It would be a travesty if the EPA were to countenance such nonsense.

Best Regards,

Howard C. Hayden

Professor Emeritus of Physics, UConn


13 posted on 11/28/2009 3:26:58 PM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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In fact, seen on the long scale, the CO2 concentration in the present cycle of glacials (ca. 200 ppm) and interglacials (ca. 300-400 ppm) is lower than it has been for the last 300 million years.

LOL - take that DU alarmists...

14 posted on 11/28/2009 4:00:10 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific fraud in history-James Lewis)
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To: GOPJ

Warmers are intellectual freaks. “Nuff said.


15 posted on 11/28/2009 4:05:46 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: ThunderSleeps

Bass ackwards. Political polarization results from the liberal fascists’ relentless attacks on liberty, culture, and traditional values. They operate under the marxist rule: anything is acceptable if it advances international totalitarian marxism. Environmental fraud is one of the many fronts from which liberal fascism is attacking. Others include massive vote fraud, fraudulent election challenges, affirmative action, racial blackmail, feminism, historical revisionism, the war against boys, sexualizing young girls, open borders, support for terrorists, aggressive libeling of judicial candidates, corporate fraud, mortgage preference programs, forced unionizing, ploticizing the military - all orchestrated by the media propaganda machine.


16 posted on 11/28/2009 4:49:29 PM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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The fact that they did not mention the CRU fraud is evidence they know they're done. They're making feeble attempts to deflect the obvious fraud.

Even if Obama gives the store away next week in Copenhagen, I don't think Congress would dare ratify (2/3rd vote needed)

By the next worldwide global warming conference..oh never mind...there won't be a next GW conference.

All those Euro countries were budgeting for a US cash infusion/giveaway from Obama....not gonna' happen. We barely saved the day. Thanks to the CRU leaker...he saved the planet.

17 posted on 11/28/2009 4:55:02 PM PST by chiller ( ALMOST SPEECHLESS)
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To: Rufus2007
The fact that they did not mention the CRU fraud is evidence they know they're done. They're making feeble attempts to deflect the obvious fraud.

Even if Obama gives the store away next week in Copenhagen, I don't think Congress would dare ratify (2/3rd vote needed)

By the next worldwide global warming conference..oh never mind...there won't be a next GW conference.

All those Euro countries were budgeting for a US cash infusion/giveaway from Obama....not gonna' happen. We barely saved the day. Thanks to the CRU leaker...he saved the planet.

18 posted on 11/28/2009 4:55:46 PM PST by chiller ( ALMOST SPEECHLESS)
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To: hal ogen

Freaks - yes. Intellectual? No Way...


19 posted on 11/28/2009 5:16:35 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific fraud in history-James Lewis)
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To: Rufus2007

KEY ClimateGate videos here:

http://BraveNewCommie.com

.....show a friend!


20 posted on 11/28/2009 5:39:14 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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