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To: Falcon28; fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385; BillyBoy; Republican Wildcat; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Option C, there’s a thought. He’s and unknown polling in single digits though so it doesn’t look good for him.

Paul would be an unknown polling in single digits too if his name was Paul Rand and he wasn’t related to Ron Paul. I don’t care for dynastic politics much.

Ron Paul did back Reagan in 1976. When he ran for President himself as the Libertarian it was in 1988 against Bush and Dukakis. Allegedly he criticized Reagan that year for the deficit.

I can’t say I’m thrilled with Grayson or Rand Paul. If Grayson is a ‘climate change’ guy that’s definitely a point against him.

I just hope the GOP doesn’t piss away the seat to the rat Conway. I’d vote for either Grayson or Paul in the General election.


45 posted on 11/29/2009 9:56:36 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued
I agree with not being thrilled with the prospect of Grayson or Rand Paul being the GOP nominee, but be willing to back either in November if they do win the nomination. I'm not sold on the idea that Grayson is a closet liberal as the Paul backers claim, or the idea that Rand Paul will be a complete looney embarrassment as the Grayson backers claim (if Rand Paul pulled a "Bob Conley" in KY and announced he was running as a RAT and voting for Reid to run the Senate because he was mad at the GOP for the WOT, THEN I'd place him into unacceptable loon category)

Usually if there's not an unacceptable RINO who MUST be stopped in the primary, I'm inclined to vote for whoever I think would be the best choice, even if they stand little chance of winning. In that case, my choice would probably be Bill Johnson (I agree he seems to be the only solid Reagan Republican in the race), though at this point it would be little more than a throwaway protest vote against the two "main" choices.

IMO, Grayson was expected to easily win the primary as the big name statewide official, so it's internal problems with his campaign that are causing him to struggle with Paul. The problem now is that Paul is portraying himself as the true conservative choice and Grayson as a moderate establishment squish. I don't think that reflects reality, as it seems to me that Grayson is better on social issues (right to life, traditional marriage, etc.) and national security issues (keep gitmo, support the Patriot Act, etc.) than Paul. But Grayson isn't communicating this to voters and Paul is deliberately being vague about his stance on those issues. Paul is probably the stronger candidate on economic issues like abolishing the income tax, returning to the gold standard, etc.

The main problem I have with these candidates backed by the Paulbots is often the bots themselves. They tend to hijack the GOP message in November and make everything a referendum "Dr. Paul's rEVOLution", sending any Republicans who don't think Ron Paul walks on water to the back of the bus. This tends to narrow their candidate's appeal (Chuck Baldwin had the same problem last November when his conservative third party campaign was engineered to appeal solely to Paul voters, though his background actually fit with Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson, and Duncan Hunter voters more). And I'm the Peter Schiff campaign in CT is suffering from the same problem. Schiff is the consensus conservative choice but the Ron Paul fan club wants to make everything about Ron Paul.

This could hurt Rand Paul's chances of winning in November (as Field noted he's using daddy's network of support and fund-raisers to propel himself ahead), but I don't know if it would be a fatal blow to his candidacy.

46 posted on 11/29/2009 10:22:24 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Impy

It was GHWB that Paul opposed, not Reagan. In 1984, Paul lsost the Senate nomination to Phil Gramm.


52 posted on 11/30/2009 6:07:50 AM PST by Theodore R.
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