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Religious Beliefs And Conservative Shirts Cost Restaurant Owner A "Sonny's" Franchise
The Tifton Gazette ^ | 12/1/09 | Angie Thompson

Posted on 12/02/2009 9:10:26 AM PST by Borneo1

TIFTON — Sonny’s Real Pit Bar-B-Q on U.S. Highway 82 West is now The Smokehouse Restaurant because local franchise owner Bill Davis refused to sell beer, wine or liquor in the “family restaurant.” Also, the Sonny’s corporation didn’t believe it was appropriate for employees there to wear “I Pledge...I Pray” T-shirts at work.

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To: discostu

Yeah, what this guy did was right, but it wasn’t heroic, and it looks to me like Sonny’s was reasonable and so was he.


21 posted on 12/02/2009 10:05:07 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thanks for the mention. He should probably use the option you mentioned here. Sounds like an out for him.


22 posted on 12/02/2009 10:11:22 AM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: Borneo1

It was because of the alcohol. I don’t blame them...alcohol produces a lot of revenue. If you are looking at it from a business, then it makes sense to find someone who would rather sell alcohol.


24 posted on 12/02/2009 10:15:37 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Mr. K

I agree, A francise comes with running things the way corporate wants not marching to your own drummer. Follow their rules or forfiet your francise.


25 posted on 12/02/2009 10:16:27 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: buccaneer81

I was hoping people realize that I meant the franchise owner. Thanks.

So what about the exercise of Free Speech. It is being attacked more and more.


26 posted on 12/02/2009 10:18:46 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MrB
Or, he could open a Chik-Fil-A - they’re a good Christian franchise company and worth supporting, I might add.

I believe that's the one I read about in Forbe's a couple of issues ago, where the company owner, a "devout Baptist", refused to let his restaurants open on Sundays.

Forbe's mentioned how much revenue he was losing by doing that, it was in the many millions.

Many things are more important than money.

27 posted on 12/02/2009 10:22:05 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Salvation
So what about the exercise of Free Speech. It is being attacked more and more.

Quite true, but that doesn't apply to private businesses. If I walk into my job (a Big Pharma company) wearing a shirt that says, "Fight the evil drug companies," I'm toast, and rightly so. I have violated the conditions of my employment.

Free speech protection under the first amendment is meant to reign in the government.

28 posted on 12/02/2009 10:34:25 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Morgana
I think that wine is more upscale. I picture the fancy waiter coming over with the wine in hand and the towel on his hand and saying “How does this do sha?” (notice it is pronounced “sha” and not sir) and the waiter pours the wine in glasses and it is drank that way. Now from a beer bottle as some do. I think that does not look classy. I want an “elegant” look in a restaurant.

It's a rib joint, not Tavern On The Green.

29 posted on 12/02/2009 10:35:42 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Graybeard58

As a private owner he can follow his beliefs in ways that would bring up lawsuits for lost revenue if there were stockholders.


30 posted on 12/02/2009 10:41:40 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Morgana
I think that wine is more upscale ... I want an “elegant” look in a restaurant.

That makes sense. But it would be kind of an unexpected atmosphere for a Southern BBQ restaurant!

31 posted on 12/02/2009 10:42:39 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Littlejon

“They also cited servers wearing apparel promoting a specific religion,”

What religion? I didn’t see a specific religion in the article.


32 posted on 12/02/2009 10:44:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Borneo1

“owner Bill Davis refused to sell beer, wine or liquor in the family restaurant.”

I can see his point about hard liquor, but maybe Bill never read in his Bible that Jesus conjured up some very fine wine for a wedding in Cana. By that very act of creating wine for the guests, Jesus was sanctioning at least a temperate use of it. The Baptists will never convince me it was only grape juice!!!


33 posted on 12/02/2009 10:45:45 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: AppyPappy

From the article:

“Davis also takes issue with Sonny’s disapproval of employees wearing clothing with American flags and Christian logos on them and with such items in the restaurant.

One paragraph in the letter reads, “Team members at the Tifton Sonny’s Store #92 were wearing white T-shirts with an American flag that stated on the front, ‘I Pledge...I Pray.’ There was also a ‘Jesus’ memento/trinket on the shelf at the cash register. The T-shirts are not an approved uniform along and the ‘Jesus’ memento/trinket are not within Sonny’s System Standards, which states as follows: Politics and Religion: Where we realize you are individual business owners with your own view on politics and religion, the Sonny’s brand must remain non-partisan. No political or religious signage is allowed on the property where a Sonny’s is located. This includes non-partisan races such as city and county government as well as holding religious services inside the restaurant. Any cash and food donations are at your discretion.”

It really doesn’t sound like they have a problem with “a specific” religion, which isn’t what I was saying, rather promoting ANY religion in a franchised establishment. In other words, they don’t want franchisees to promote their own religions beliefs or give the impression that any one religion is being promoted at a restaurant with their name on it.


34 posted on 12/02/2009 10:50:07 AM PST by Littlejon
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To: Littlejon

The “I pledge...I pray” doesn’t promote a specific religion. It sounds like Sonny’s is just anti-religion.


37 posted on 12/02/2009 10:57:33 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Mr. K
As it stands, they are correct- it is THEIR name he wants to use, but he does not want to follow all their rules...I hope he starts his own franchise and makes a million, though

I agree with you in both instances. It's always interesting to see how many people are willing to grant someone special rights or protected class status as long as the grantee is of ideological similarity.

And, yeah, if Bill Davis wants to start his own family values restaurant with employees wearing prayer t-shirts, I'll make a reservation whenever I'm in his town.

38 posted on 12/02/2009 11:03:48 AM PST by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: AppyPappy

Could be, but it probably stems from some pointy-headed lawyer telling them they shouldn’t have employees even think about religion at work or they risk being sued.


39 posted on 12/02/2009 11:04:36 AM PST by Littlejon
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To: hoosierham

If it’s the same one I read about, he’s the only owner.


40 posted on 12/02/2009 11:07:16 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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