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Sen. Snowe likely 60th vote for cloture on Senate Obamacare with abortion funding, public option
Fox news Channel | 12/7/09

Posted on 12/07/2009 4:11:36 PM PST by pabianice

Per Fox. Title says it all. Gonna happen in time for Christmas. Gutless conservatives have been rightfully excluded from government.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; cloture; missinglink; snowe
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To: thecabal

So this piece of crap passes..what if all those who are against this..that 70something % just flat refuse to pay taxes at all...how about the whole nation just telling the IRS to go to hell..
Somehow WE THE PEOPLE have to take the power away from this bunch of thugs in congress.
Brit friends are shocked at what is going on here despite the advice they have heard given against this. They wonder if there will be blood in the streets?


61 posted on 12/07/2009 4:43:18 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: pabianice

I can tell you with almost 100% certainty what is going to happen.

It will pass with the “nuclear option” of only 51 needed under reconciliation.

That way, they dont need all the Blue Dog votes who would suffer backlash if passed.

Anyone disagree?


62 posted on 12/07/2009 4:44:35 PM PST by neverbluffer (But,)
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To: cranked
You know, given the utter failure of Maine’s version of statewide healthcare, you would think that Snowe would seriously consider voting against this piece of garbage ObamaCare they are attempting and WILL shove down our collective throats.<>BR>
IMHO she is NOT casting a vote for Obamacare, she is voting for the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT - HE MUST HAVE THIS BILL OR HE GOES DOWN IN FLAMES AND SHE KNOWS IT. Chris Matthews said it all - it was his job to make sure THIS President succeeds. I am sure she has been threatened and bribed and even if she knows this bill is garbage it must be passed for the sake of saving this President.
63 posted on 12/07/2009 4:44:38 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: pabianice

Didn’t Ben Nelson drop his anti Abortion amendment in the bill today? That’ll piss alot of hard core leftists off.


64 posted on 12/07/2009 4:44:59 PM PST by PawtucketPatriot71 (Emanuel and Axlerod- The new generations Haldeman and Ehlichman)
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To: bert
The way to kill healthcare is to vote for cloture and then vote it down

6o votes v 50?
65 posted on 12/07/2009 4:45:41 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ronnie raygun

The question shouldn’t be what the colonists of 1776 would do in our shoes. They lived in different times and are now passed on.

The question is what we, the American Patriots of the 21st Century are going to do. We have men smart, wise, and zealous just like our founding fathers were. We have to make our own niche in history instead of trying to work derivatively off of those that came before us.

This is our time to carve our names in the annals of American history.


66 posted on 12/07/2009 4:46:13 PM PST by MWS
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To: MWS

We are way past talking about partisanship/bi-partisanship and all that feeble political crap. Reality has caught up with us and we have a filthy Chicago-style Marxist gang in the Whitehouse that can buy-off or persuade anybody and any industry group with our money. Even so, the sheeple are too stupid to see this, let alone care about 0 not being bi-partisan. Don’t waste your energy pouncing.


67 posted on 12/07/2009 4:49:28 PM PST by balls (Never again in 2010 -- Let's throw the bums out!)
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To: pabianice

If this is true, much of the blame can be laid at the feet of minority “leader” McConnell. By now, he should have gotten her aside and made sure she understood in no uncertain terms that if she betrays the GOP and sells out to Obama, she had better be prepared to join Arlen Iscariot in switching parties as well — because she will have no future left on the Republican side of the aisle.

But, unfortunately, testosterone is not McConnell’s strong suit.


68 posted on 12/07/2009 4:50:08 PM PST by hampdenkid
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To: Cheerio

With the public option I don’t think there are 50


69 posted on 12/07/2009 4:51:25 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: pabianice; MestaMachine; EternalVigilance; Moonmad27; Cold Heat; Conservativegreatgrandma; ...
This is the danger of voting RINO simply because there is an (R) after their name. This is the fallacy of saving the seat with an R in it. These are not little trade-offs being made by RINOs, these are democrat moles within the Republican Party.

We will have government run healthcare, not because Conservatives voted independently...but because republican party members voted for the RINO because they're not as bad as dems.

70 posted on 12/07/2009 4:54:13 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: neverbluffer

If it were not for the fact that it would be near impossible to salvage our Constitutional form of government once they push this through, I’d actually HOPE for them to use the nuclear option.

This is an awful piece of legislation that is going to serve to rally Americans against them in the years to come and the fact that they used the nuclear option to bypass legitimate debate on the matter would make them look worse than they would otherwise.

Sadly, the real world doesn’t work as it should on paper so I’m actually rather nervous they might try something arrogant and ill-advised as that. I think, however, with the inclusion of abortion in the bill we might have a chance of ramping up public pressure against the Senate if we focus on the fact that this isn’t the “Health Care for Everybody Bill” - it’s the “Free Abortions for Everybody Bill.”

I have to think that when we paint the matter in those terms that there are many in the public who might reconsider their support for this measure.


71 posted on 12/07/2009 4:55:20 PM PST by MWS
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To: niteowl77

Now if we were in 1776 what would the colonists do??????
Something we are not allowed to discuss on FR.

Really? Maybe I haven’t been watching close enough. Examples please.


72 posted on 12/07/2009 4:56:16 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: K-oneTexas

She probably isn’t planning to run again...hopefully! She is an embarrassement to herself.


73 posted on 12/07/2009 5:00:24 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: balls

Not everyone out there is sheeple. I firmly believe that there are lots of folks in this country who hold very conservative values yet have been hoodwinked by the hard left into not seeing how liberal policies run directly contrary to the best interests of this nation. I believe there are still many out there in this country that we can pull over to our cause if we’d simply take the time to properly educate them as to why they really do think like we do.

We are in a Civil War of Words and Ideas and it behooves us to give our best efforts in all aspects of this battle. Even when things look insurmountable, my Christian faith, that same Christian faith upon which this nation was built, informs me that I ought to keep faith in God and never give up trying. God always prevails where men can only fail.


74 posted on 12/07/2009 5:00:29 PM PST by MWS
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To: lonestar

I thought that before of other politicians ... but it didn’t stop them.

Embarrassment to you and me (normal average hard working Americans) is quite different ...

from greedy narcissistic back stabbing lying politicians ...

and that is on their good days.


75 posted on 12/07/2009 5:08:05 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: bert

where is the Fox News link ??????
Or is this another vanity !


76 posted on 12/07/2009 5:09:44 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: pabianice

Where is the Fox New article ??????
Where is it ???

Are we confused the abortion amendment vote ?


77 posted on 12/07/2009 5:11:23 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Kenny

Not another damned dime to the RNC. Ever.


78 posted on 12/07/2009 5:11:34 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: pabianice

So now we know why she was summoned to the WH on Sunday...bet she sold out for less than Landrieu. Stupid XXXX.


79 posted on 12/07/2009 5:17:23 PM PST by SueRae
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To: MWS

Apparently, your god has favorites.


80 posted on 12/07/2009 5:18:54 PM PST by balls (Never again in 2010 -- Let's throw the bums out!)
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