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Obama's birth certificate (Uses Snopes to prove "authenticity")
The Carroll County Examiner ^ | December 7, 2009 | David Thornton

Posted on 12/07/2009 8:26:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A rumor that won’t die is the myth that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is fake. There are different theories on where Obama was born, if he was not born in Hawaii as he claims. A prevailing belief is that he was born in Kenya, and as a native Kenyan, is not eligible to be President of the United States. Some have also claimed that his full name includes the name “Mohammed,” adding to speculation that Obama is a secret Muslim.

At this point, mountains of evidence are in and they all point to the fact that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. As far back as July 2008, Obama had released a copy of his birth certificate. Obama had to release the birth certificate himself because in Hawaii, birth certificates are not public documents and must be requested by the family. Obama’s birth certificate can viewed here.

Almost immediately, the certificate came under attack due to the lack of an embossed seal and signature. The answer to that challenge is that in Hawaii, the seal and signature are on the back of the certificate. The political fact-checkers at Politifact.com emailed the copy of the certificate released by Obama to the Hawaii Department of Health. They were told by a spokesman that the copy was a valid Hawaii birth certificate. The name on the certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.

According to Snopes.Com, Hawaiian government officials have vouched for the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate twice; once in October 2008 and again in July 2009. Additionally, Snopes also provides the testimony of a Hawaiian school teacher who actually spoke with the obstetrician that delivered the baby Barack.

Politifact also checked Obama’s other public domain records. These other records included his marriage certificate from Cook County, Illinois, his driver’s license records in Illinois, and his attorney registration and public disciplinary record from Illinois. All show that his name is Barack Hussein Obama. He also has no moving violations and has not been disciplined as an attorney.

If that were not enough, Obama’s birth announcements can be seen in both Honolulu newspapers. The Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star Bulletin both record the birth of Barack Hussein Obama on August 4, 1961. The newspaper announcements can be seen here.

In August 2009, a birth certificate surfaced that purported to show that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This birth certificate was quickly revealed to be a forgery. Among the tell-tale mistakes on the certificate are the phrase “Republic of Kenya,” which did not exist at the time, an incorrect age for Obama’s father, and the claim that Barack Jr. was born in Mombasa, which was located far from where Obama Sr. lived. In fact, Mombasa was so far from where Obama lived that it was not even part of Kenya at the time; it was actually then a part a part of Zanzibar.

A further claim is that US law at the time specified that if only one parent was a US citizen, to pass citizenship along to the child, that parent must have been a US citizen “for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16” [citation]. The claim is that since Obama’s mother was 18 at the time of his birth, she does not meet the requirement to pass along citizenship to Barack Jr. According to Snopes, this law applied only to children born to US citizens outside the US. Since the evidence is that Obama was born in Hawaii, this claim is moot.

There is also the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claimed to be present at his birth. Since she had never left Kenya, the implication is that Obama must have been born in Kenya. When the entire transcript is reviewed, it seems that there was confusion over the word “present” since Mrs. Obama did not speak English and was relying on a translator. Throughout the conversation, she continues to claim that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Finally, there have been two lawsuits regarding Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship. Suits filed by Philip Berg and Alan Keyes were dismissed as frivolous and without merit. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.

While we can easily see that Obama’s does not and has never included the name “Mohammed,” it is not easy to see what is in Obama’s heart. Claims that Obama is a closet Muslim are not easily proved nor disproved. What can be shown is that Obama has long been a member of a Christian church, although one of a far left denomination. Obama’s family heritage includes many links to Islam so it is understandable that he would have sympathy for Muslims around the world. However, neither being a Muslim nor having sympathy for Muslims would be disqualifying for a president.

After having President Obama lead the United States for almost a year, it is easy to understand why wishful thinking could lead people to grasp at straws for reasons why he could not be president. Nevertheless, the evidence is overwhelming that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States, having been born in a Honolulu hospital. To believe otherwise requires belief in a massive conspiracy that includes Obama’s entire family, the Hawaii Department of Health, his birth doctor, and countless others.

It makes more sense to accept the reality of Obama’s citizenship and fight him on the issues. His foreign policy favors dictators and terrorists over democracy. His domestic policy is built on unsustainable spending that must surely be followed by economy-killing taxes and inflation. To effectively fight his policies, Obama’s opponents must ground themselves in reality and facts, which can easily illustrate that Obama’s policies are all wrong for America.

Sources: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/ http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kenyanphonetranscript.pdf


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kenyabelieveit; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; snopes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So why has he incurred over $1,000,000 in legal fees. No doubt he is a citizen...but why not shut everyone up by producing the long form?


61 posted on 12/07/2009 11:43:38 PM PST by drinktheobamakoolaid (When do replace an empty suit...November 6, 2012)
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To: Red Steel

Yup Red Steele, this pattern of SNOPES goes back even farther before Obama declared he was going to run for President.


62 posted on 12/07/2009 11:45:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stretch for this guy or that article to even be called “ Conservative “ a wolf in sheeps clothing.


63 posted on 12/07/2009 11:47:07 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: cushman
I posit there was a necessary and deniable edit.

It is said Biden & Biden were useful in squelching Larry Sinclair.

Quid pro quo--you betcha.

The least transparent, the least ethical, the most antithetical administration in the history of the Republic.

Our constitution did not do enough to redistribute the wealth--

Behold the president of Marx and Das Capital, not Adam Smith and Wealth of Nations.

Brazen treason supported by a ministry of propaganda.

Including, to be sure, the execrable snopes.

64 posted on 12/08/2009 12:35:18 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Spaulding

An impotent legal system is a likely path to revolution (if someone important didn’t say that, he should have!)
***It’s been said very succinctly: No justice, no peace.


65 posted on 12/08/2009 1:24:43 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama Signed Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible

This is an oldie, but it needs to be revisited, since the Obots still argue that Obama is eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

On April 10, 2008, Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for president. Sen. McCaskill knew Obama was not a U.S. Citizen, that’s why she introduced this bill — dressing it up to look like it was in Sen. John McCain’s cause.

It was during the bill’s hearing that Sen. Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, made the following statement:

“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”

At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.

What’s interesting here is that Sen. Leahy, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary, confirms that a “natural born” citizen is the child of American citizen parents.

Parents — that’s two. That’s BOTH parents.

Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used. The plural case is the operative case.

It is Sen. Leahy’s opinion — his own recorded words, in a formal Senate Resolution and on his U. S. Senate website — that Barack Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and therefore not eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief, regardless of his birthplace.

Obama had one American parent —singular — his mother. His father was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain.

Obama, himself, “at birth,” was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain — he says so on his own campaign website. This fact introduces the concept of “divided loyalties,” — the reason the founders created the eligibility requirement in the first place — a fact that further underlines Obama’s ineligibility.

The source of this information is Sen. Leahy’s own website. The webpage contains a statement about the resolution; the resolution, itself; the Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.); and an excerpt of Sec. Chertoff’s testimony.

The plural word “parents” is used four times. When used to identify the parents, the word “citizens” is used five times. That’s nine times that Sen. Leahy, on his own website describes the eligibility requirement. There is NO PLACE in any of these four documents where the singular case of “parent” or “citizen” is used.

The real purpose of this bill was to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” by the Democratic Party leadership — paving the way for an Obama run.

Both Leahy and Chertoff avoid addressing the “in the US mainland” (jus solis) element of the eligibility requirement and focus solely on parentage (jus sanguinis) in making their arguments and by doing so bring focus to the fundamental reason Obama is not qualified. He had one American parent and one foreign parent. Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen — no matter where he was born.

Obama is a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS — except he doesn’t care — after all, he’s the Obamamessiah. Rules don’t apply to him.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm#LeahyResolution


66 posted on 12/08/2009 3:25:10 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My grandparents were legal immigrants from Spain during the “Franco” years. They maintained legal, permanent alien status. My father and his sister were born in the U.S., with older siblings who born in Spain. During WWII, my father served served in Europe and received the Purple Heart. He is a Native Born Citizen, entitled to every right citizenship bestows, save for one, he cannot become president. He is not the child of two American citizens, and nothing but nothing can change that fact. Why is it so hard for this to be understood? Our founding fathers had national security at the heart of this decision and so it was written as “Natural Born” rather than “Native Born” in our Constitution. This is no small matter. If the strength of our country lies upon the written document, which most feel it must, then we have been mortally wounded. Unless this is corrected, we endure a farcical arrangement by a fraudulent leader who has no right and a Congress who is content to allow this hoax to be perpetrated upon American citizens. God help us for it is the Constitution we loose, our government is faux and our leaders are in collusion. Is there no one in a position to do so who will step forward and call this for what it is?
67 posted on 12/08/2009 4:26:25 AM PST by scottiemom ("As a Texas public school teacher, I would highly recommend private school")
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To: narses
     
68 posted on 12/08/2009 4:33:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: El Sordo

Obama’s other name is Barry Soetoro.


69 posted on 12/08/2009 5:11:40 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Habibi

Why does he have another name Barry Soetoro then?


70 posted on 12/08/2009 5:12:51 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The simple question is if the BC is legit, why all the effort and expense to block access and hide it?


71 posted on 12/08/2009 5:16:17 AM PST by Rebelbase (Green bean casserole is a culinary curse upon mankind)
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To: Rebelbase

The pretend president has a law firm on retainer to block access to all of his records, not just the birth cert. All his college records and off limits. Leads to the question of why all this information needs to be hidden. The dimrat media went to such lengths as to manufacture history in order to destroy GW Bush, but they are actively protecting this goofball. I don’t expect any of his history to be leaked because the ozero team has a LOT of money to throw around to threaten elected officials jobs. Remember, all that stimulus money that hasn’t been spent?


72 posted on 12/08/2009 5:28:50 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Shut your piehole you ignorant puffed up smidgeon of blowfish sh!t.
**************

LOL!

Well said.


73 posted on 12/08/2009 5:31:25 AM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I’m less worried about the possibility of him being a closet Kenyan than I am about him being an open socialist.

That he is a full-blown and in the open socialist has already been established. That he is a natural born American is still very much in question. The pressure needs to be applied on all war fronts. Right now, the enemy is winning and America is being systematically destroyed.
74 posted on 12/08/2009 5:40:55 AM PST by adorno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That pretty much sums it up does it not.

Barack Obama is a Muslim.

Reciting the Muslim declaration of faith is how one becomes or converts to Islam.

Read the words carefully.

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that Muhammad is his prophet?”

It is a delcaration of faith as important as being baptized is for a Christian.

75 posted on 12/08/2009 6:43:08 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: El Sordo

How many of these Christian Arabs have recited the Muslim declaration of faith?


76 posted on 12/08/2009 6:47:22 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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bump


77 posted on 12/08/2009 6:50:12 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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أشهدُ أنْ لا إلهَ إلاَّ اللهُ وأشهدُ أنَّ محمّداً رسولُ الله
78 posted on 12/08/2009 6:56:37 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Do all birthers think strawmen and rudeness wins arguments?


79 posted on 12/08/2009 7:19:17 AM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In June, 2008, after viewing the Certification of Live Birth, provided on Obama’s Fight the Smears website, Janice Okubo, of the Hawaii Health Department stated, “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

It should be noted that this statement is found in the same article that the liberal Snopes uses as proof that Hawaii verified Obama’s Certification of Live Birth as being genuine, and was Okubo’s final word on the matter. Hawaii will not even state that they issued the document to Obama. It should also be noted that the State of Hawaii routinely issues COLBs to children born OUTSIDE of the United States, when their birth is registered with that State. When the birth is registered, a birth announcement is placed in the newspapers-so neither the COLB or the Newspaper announcements are proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is true that Fukino stated that vital records indicate that Obama was born in Hawaii, but it is illegal for her to make such a statement, if she was referencing birth records, so it is quite possible that she was only getting that information from the letter that Obama sent to the hospital during their Centennial celebrations, claiming he was born there. At any rate, we are being asked to accept the word of one Obama supporter, who will provide no documents to back up her claim.


80 posted on 12/08/2009 8:09:41 AM PST by chatter4
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