Emails, schmeemails, look at the polar ice caps

American Thinker ^ | December 11, 2009 | By Randall Hoven

[neverdem]

Apparently, you don't really need a whole bunch of temperature data to know what's happening with temperatures.  Don't bother looking for trends of 0.007 degrees per year averaged over the planet (the rate over the last century, per the IPCC[pdf]) by wading through all that adjusted, quality-controlled and homogenized data, fudge factors or not.  Just look at the polar ice caps and ... QED.

"Stop hyperventilating, all you climate-change deniers. The purloined e-mail correspondence published by skeptics last week -- portraying some leading climate researchers as petty, vindictive and tremendously eager to make their data fit accepted theories -- does not prove that global warming is a fraud.  If I'm wrong, somebody ought to tell the polar ice caps that they're free to stop melting."  Eugene Robinson in The Washington Post.

"I am thoroughly unimpressed with the belief that global warming scientists have been engaging in some kind of massive conspiracy to conceal the truth.  First, because we seem to be able to observe things like polar ice sheets melting, which point to warming."  Megan McArdle in the Atlantic.

"A pictures is worth a thousand emails and pictures of the polar ice caps show a 20% decrease since 1979."  Katie Couric in her Notebook.

One thing I might remind Eugene, Megan, Katie and the rest of the "follow the ice caps" folks, is that there are two poles on the planet and two polar ice caps: a north one and a south one.  And only one has been shrinking.  Also, our records of them go back only 30 years, a relative blip in time when talking global climate change.

When temperatures get cooler over a decade or few, alarmists blame it on ocean currents or something temporary we should ignore.  The BBC, in its article Next decade 'may see no warming', explains it for us.

"The key to the new prediction is the natural cycle of ocean temperatures called the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), which is closely related to the warm currents that bring heat from the tropics to the shores of Europe.

"The cause of the oscillation is not well understood, but the cycle appears to come round about every 60 to 70 years.

"‘One message from our study is that in the short term, you can see changes in the global mean temperature that you might not expect given the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),' said Noel Keenlyside from the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences at Kiel University."

So you see, there are 60-70 year cycles that (a) are "not well understood" and (b) "you might not expect" to see in global mean temperature, given that the models the IPCC uses do not include them.

But in spite of all that, what happens with the north polar ice cap (2% of the earth's surface) in a 30 year period trumps everything, trust us.  (The arctic ice sheet averages about 10 million square kilometers, varying between about 4 and 16 million each year.  The area of the entire globe is about 510 million square kilometers.  So the arctic ice cap represents less than 2% of the earth's surface.)

What these people are doing is taking only one of the two ice caps, the north one, and the difference in its extent over the most recent 30 years.  That proves nothing about "global" anything.  It is one tiny part of the planet over one relatively short time span.

But OK, let's look at a picture, which Katie says is worth 1000 emails.  My source is the Polar Research Group in the Department of Atmospheric Science at the University of Illinois, which is no den of deniers.

Source:  University of Illinois, Polar Research Group, Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences.

Funny, I don't see a 20% decline in this ice cap.  In fact, it looks like a slight increase to me.  In fact, since 2003, it's about half a million square kilometers above average, or about 5% above average.  (Southern hemisphere sea ice is also about 10 million square kilometers, on average.) 

So let's accept that the arctic ice sheet decreased 20% as Katie said.  The Antarctic ice sheet increased 5%.  And both together represent about 4% of the earth's surface.  And all that is over only 30 years, when even the advocates of man-caused climate change admit to a poorly understood 60-70 year cycle.

So looking at the polar ice caps tells us nothing, especially when the two caps are doing opposite things.

By its very nature, climate changes.  That means it sometimes gets warmer and sometimes gets cooler.  And some places get warmer while others get cooler.  It all changes over both time and geography.  The question is, what is it doing on balance?

And to know that, we need to look at all the data.  Instead of being forthcoming and presenting all the data, the alarmists cherry pick: they show us only the warming data.  The north ice cap, but not the Antarctic ice cap.  Greenland's melting land ice, but not Antarctica's growing land ice.  The warm temperatures from 1980 to 2000, but not the warm temperatures from 1920 to 1940, or the cooler ones since 2000. The apparent warming since 1850, but not the even warmer medieval period.

The result is that you, the public, your children in school, are getting only half, or less than half, the picture: the glass half-empty half. The warming half.  In this way, the popularizers of man-caused global warming can tell the "truth" while presenting the bigger lie.  They tell only half the truth -- the warming half.

There are not "QEDs" out there.  You cannot just stick your head out the window.  You cannot just look at "the" polar ice cap (there are two).  You cannot fret about Greenland's melting land ice, when Antarctica's land ice is 10 times bigger and growing.  Some glaciers shrink, but others grow.

Like so much else, this ultimately comes down to trust.  Do you trust the UN's climate scientists and the media to be telling us the truth and the whole truth?  That is exactly where the CRU emails enter the issue.  We finally learned for sure that we could not trust them.  The scientific cabal called climate researchers constantly screened their data to make sure they only showed us the empty half of the glass.  (And arbitrarily adjusted much of what they did show.)

Katie likes pictures.  But Katie, you need to look at more than one picture of one place at one time to have even a clue of what the entire planet is doing over the long term.  If you think a picture worth so much, Katie, should we base all we know about you on this one? 

Source: Gawker, via  The Huffington Post.

Randall Hoven can be contacted at randall.hoven@gmail.com or  via his web site, randallhoven.com.

[neverdem]

Will Charlie Gibson leave Fistgate to the 'Cables'?

It's sick.

[FromLori]

This is a good one

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/10/counting-cru-tricks/#more-13415

[spodefly]

BTTT

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[gleeaikin]

I don’t care what the heck the ice caps are doing.

What frosts me is all the money we are sending to the middle east, Venezuela and Nigeria for oil. We need to produce our own energy here at home and stop messing up our balance of payments. Do we really want to be owing China all that money? Just because we may disagree about the direction of global climate change doesn’t mean we shouldn’t worry about energy.

[Gondring]

The Southern ice coverage isn't the same as Northern, and the author subtly notes it by the comparisons of land ice. Thicknesses are also important...the pattern displayed is what would be expected from war4ming. That is, Antarctic ice sheet thinning and spreading, while the Arctic ice coverage decreases.

That doesn't mean it's significant or anthropogenic, but it's important to note that this is a lot more complex than most people realize.

[Lancey Howard]

US Navy submarines "Seadragon" and "Skate" surface to rendevous at the North Pole, August, 1962.

[rawcatslyentist]

>"Emails, schmeemails, look at the polar ice caps "

Especially the ones Algae photoshopped! Why the ice has disappeared!!! We're doooooooomed!!!!!

[agere_contra]

There are also the Arctic submarine volcanoes to consider.

[nikos1121]

Even though these are from 2003 I get the drift.

One must assume, that alot of money was put in these “researcher’s”, and I use that word with contempt, hands.

They also had a mandate, that as long as they could prove the theory of global warming, the money would keep coming.

I mean, was this their full time jobs?

The TRICK then being, that if we could keep this facade going, year after year, our jobs were secure.

Boy, I’d like to know the amount of tax dollars went into this phoney research.

THE BIGGEST SCAM STORY IN ALL OF THIS, IS THAT THE DATA THEY HAD HAS SIMPLY VANISHED, SO NO ONE CAN COME IN HERE AND DISPROVE THEM.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

It is a miracle that there is ice anywhere on Earth with a core that is millions of degrees.

Expect the media to shift to the Antarctic now that it is almost Summer there now and since the Arctic is gaining ice for Winter.

Capture from NASA Living Earth 10-26-09.(That white stuff is icecap.)

[PeaceBeWithYou]

I wouldn't say that, there are some that know...

[Scotsman will be Free]

“Greenland’s melting land ice...”
I wonder why the Vikings named the place “Greenland”? Do you think...? Nah, couldn’t be.

[palmer]

We need to produce our own energy here at home and stop messing up our balance of payments. Do we really want to be owing China all that money?

We send money to China for Chinese-made crap, not for oil. We should buy oil from whoever sells theirs the cheapest. Also we should remove artificial restrictions on our own oil and gas development.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Slight correction. The capure is from NASA Visible Earth.

[ltc8k6]

http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3553

[Elsie]

And only one has been shrinking.

But THAT one is OURS!

[Elsie]

If you think a picture worth so much, Katie, should we base all we know about you on this one?

"...you open up your mouth.
You put your left foot in..."

[neverdem]

The Southern ice coverage isn't the same as Northern, and the author subtly notes it by the comparisons of land ice. Thicknesses are also important...the pattern displayed is what would be expected from war4ming. That is, Antarctic ice sheet thinning and spreading, while the Arctic ice coverage decreases.

Antarctic ice is growing, not melting away

That doesn't mean it's significant or anthropogenic, but it's important to note that this is a lot more complex than most people realize.

I initially trained as a chemist. Scientists are supposed to be sceptical, but also keep an open mind. Forget that none of their vaunted climate models predicted the lack of warming for at least the last ten years. Forget that the record from previous ice ages and interglacial periods shows that the rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations comes after the atmosphere warmed by about seven to eight hundred years.

The climategate emails have shown ample reasons to doubt the veracity of the temperature data. There's also ample reason to doubt the carbon dioxide data.The samples were mostly collected from the worst locations, i.e. active volcanos, and IIRC, the official government records are a farce.

Historically, the conservatives are the gang usually preaching the precautionary principle The only instance of the left observing the precautionary principle that I can recall is when they want to deny the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms protected by the Second Amendment. So I have to ask myself why is the left now "Going Cheney on Climate"?.

Now I'm not denying carbon dioxide absorbs energy from solar infrared radiation, but the earth has a number of carbon dioxide sinks, and how does the greenhouse analogy make sense when earth's atmosphere expands and contracts largely in response to external forces?

There's a clinical maxim in medicine about making a diagnosis: "When you hear the sound of hoofbeats, don't think zebras." It's probably a horse if your not in Africa. In other words, if you want to consider a zebra, rule out a horse. In the case of global warming, you have to rule out natural variation. That's a tall order when we know the record includes the Medieval Warm Period, Little Ice Age, etc. That's even tougher when the correlation with sunspot activity is considered as well as the correlations with ocean currents and temperature data.

IMHO, I think this Warmageddon mongering is a horse called fraud. It's been fed by scientists made into prostitutes with $80 billion in grants from taxpayers, useful idiots on the left with no understanding of science and politicos who see a gravy train and lust for power.

[Roberts]

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