Replies

I stand by the statement I made to JimRob in post #1047. A trucated version:

I'm pro-God, pro-Creator, pro-Life, pro-Liberty, and absolutely against running a abortionist/gay rights RINO for President. (I'd also take that one step further than some freepers in that I'm ALSO absolutely against nominating abortionist/gay rights RINOs for major office in ANY state, regardless of whether it "voted for Obama" I don't think we need to sell our soul to "win".) I'm a charter member of the VRWC, couldn't be more proud, and have one of those cool FreeRepublic themed "VRWC" cards in my wallet.
I'm also a practicing Christian, consider myself devout (I attend church when I can), but I wouldn't describe myself as a "fundamentalist" or "religious right". (one of the few times I think Ann Coulter was spot-on was when she said conservatives in the upper northern states aren't comfortable with the label "religious right" attached to us , regardless of how religious we are) I am a hardcore social conservative, but not because of my religion (for example my church was adamantly opposed to the Iraq war, whereas I supported it).
I have no intention of joining "Darwin Central" for the same reason I have no intention of joining the "American Association of Geologists" even though I believe in the theory of continental drift. Not my thing.

But for the record, I also agree with the statement Behemoth the Cat made before being banned:

"I am also a Christian who thinks “evolution” has been scientifically demonstrated. Most Christians think similarly. The problem is... the zeal of one, small breed of creationists - the Young Earth creationists, who cannot reconcile science with faith (as the mainstream Christianity managed to do several hundred years ago, on the occasion of geocentrism). It's sad that the FR founder has subscribed to the view... professed only by some FRINGE Protestant sects, defines one's conservatism and faith, and denies Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans... the name of Christians"

I certainly hope that won't get me banned. I've been a member in good standing of this forum for a decade. I supported JimRob when he banned the Rudybots that were being disruptive and spoke out against the freepers pushing for Romney 2012. I whole heartedly agree with the goals of this forum. But I also agree with the idea that freepers who believe in creationism have no right to continually bash those who feel otherwise as "non Christians". I wish the mods would crack down on that more.

Wasn't it during the Huckabee campaign that we hearing on this forum about how it was so important not to let the "evangelical types" alone dictate who's a good Christian and what the GOP stands for?

But I also agree with the idea that freepers who believe in creationism have no right to continually bash those who feel otherwise as "non Christians". I wish the mods would crack down on that more.

Then in all fairness, they should crack down on evolutionists who bash creationists as non-Christians. It works both ways.

Neither side is entirely blameless in the accusations it throws at the other. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

But for the record, I also agree with the statement Behemoth the Cat made before being banned:

Oh, and just on a whim, IBTZ.....

Reagan never turned his back on any of the "churchy" Republicans who worked tirelessly as Christian footsoldiers and certainly "paid their dues" all the way up the party hirachy to the top. The Party needs these dedicated, hard working souls in the worst way.

Poking sticks at them because they hold fundamental beliefs so as to keep from veering off the "straight and narrow" into sin is a sin!!!

So what if you aren't as devout as they are? That's no reason to eject them from any and all party endeavors!!!

Why get all nervous and defensive about devout, fundamentalist christians, huh? They don't have leprosy!!!

While I agree that ‘young earth creationists’ have not come up with any scientific explainations for anything (that is not their purpose, nor IDers) ;you have to be careful with statements like ‘“evolution” has been scientifically demonstrated.’

Human evolution has not been scientifically demonstrated, nor can anything in the past that is unrepeatable be demonstrated.

A big troublemaker is Dawkins who makes evolution the cornerstone of promoting his atheism. He fuels the creationist/ID fire.

But for the record, I also agree with the statement Behemoth the Cat made before being banned:

"I am also a Christian who thinks “evolution” has been scientifically demonstrated.

That is simply wrong. Evolution has been scientifically disproven repeatedly over a very long period of time to such an extent that any real science theory (i.e. any theory which was actually defended for reasons related to science rather than to careers and lifestyles) would have long since been discarded.

I've mentioned the decades-long fruit fly experiments conducted in the early decades of the 1900s and the explanation for the failure of those experiments offered by the discovery of DNA. That by itself should have ended evolution as a viable theory.

Another overwhelming disproof has been the continued total failure to find intermediate fossils; Darwinism demanded that the VAST BULK OF ALL fossils be clear and unambiguous intermediates. The total lack of any such finally forced Steven Gould, Niles Eldridge and others to concoct the hare-brained "punctuated equilibria" (punk-eek) theory to replace Darwinian gradualism. Punk-eek has so many problems itself that evolutionites generally now try to present aspects of both theories as if they were compatible, which they were not.

For that matter, the other thing which Punk-eek was intended to resolve was the Haldane Dilemma, which describes the gigantic time spans which would be needed to spread any genetic change through any large herd of animals which was already spread out geographically. People who have followed the Haldane problem to its logical conclusions speak in terms of quadrillions of years for anything resembling evolution to produce our present biosphere even if that were possible, which it isn't.

Nonetheless, far from having quadrillions of years to work with, we are now gradually learning that the dinosaurs which we've been told all our lives died out 70 million years ago, were here much more recently than that and that the 70 million years are basically a fairytale. This information includes blood, meat, and other soft tissue found in dinosaur remains over the last few years:

as well as clear images of known dinosaur types in Amerind petroglyphs:

Like I say, it's basically all over but the shouting. Evolution is a dead theory walking.