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To: Yona
if Israel does it alone (they may not have enough planes, Obama would be trying to throw them to the wolves), it will kill the USA’s credibility EVEN MORE

You are exactly correct with the exception of "not enough planes".

Israel has sufficient air power alone, and sufficient ballistic missile capability alone to take out all of Iran and Syria in one single strike.

Here is the problem: The Iran nuke facilities are several, all are well bunkered underground. Israel has first generation non nuclear bunker busters, but it is doubtful they will completely destroy the targets.

Last week, the US announced the start of manufacture of third generation non nuke bunker busters, (we are the only manufacturers, so far). The US has refused to supply Israel with any of the gen 2 or 3 BBs, and stupidly continues that policy.

Nuclear weapons strikes will do the job that gen 3 BBs would do.

The second part of this point: For an aircraft strike without unnecessarily sacrificing aircraft and crew, IDF needs to overfly Iraq. The US has refused to cooperate and has indirectly threatened to engage IDF aircraft overflying Iraq. Israel can protect it's aircrews and fully accomplish the mission by using a balistic missile attack with nuclear weapons. This would leave Israel much better prepared to defend against retaliatory attacks from where ever.

Keep in mind that a NON NUKE bunker buster attack only on nuke bunkers would probably not trigger Arab nation support outside Iran. Israel accomplished a surgical land assault on Syrian nuke facilities with only complaints from some Arab nations, nothing else.

Finally, the Arabs could only retaliate against Israel by force or propaganda. The cowards always lose using force, and win using propaganda, so what would change from Israel's action? However, the Arabs could retaliate against the US by simply turning off the oil. Russia would be fine with this and China would buy the oil.

Zer0 is either the dumbest halfrican on the face of the Earth, or the one most determined to destroy America.

25 posted on 12/22/2009 8:48:35 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

When I say not enough planes, I mean Israel does not have enough planes to strike Iran AND protect itself from incoming missiles being fired from Iran, Syria, Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Gaza (Hamas). Iran’s plan is to strike Israel from all sides as a response to an Israeli attack on its nuclear installations. Moreover, Israel cannot use nukes for obvious reasons. The worst possible outcome of an Israeli strike could be alienating the Iranian people. Ironically, most Iranians don’t hate Israel, but hate their megalomaniac government. An Israeli strike accompanied by ground forces (it would have to) would possibly reinforce the belief that Israelis are “murderous” (as seen in the Gaza offensive). PLUS the biggest threat would be Iran closing its straits, AND ONLY the U.S. Navy could stop such a blockade, which is why Israel needs America to be involved. Obviously Obummer is against force, however, like the Democrats in general I feel like he will make a closed-door backroom deal with Israel (he better!). Lastly, I agree with you about the diplomatic war. The nuclear installations are all setup in civilian areas so Iran can claim war crimes like their “bretheren” in Gaza. If America doesn’t help Israel perform the strike and curb the diplomatic BS that will ensue then yes, Obummer is out to destroy America. Sadly, many in the world hate the Jews and would like to see them killed, and I fear that, unfortunately, Obama may make that possibility a reality.


30 posted on 12/22/2009 10:41:45 AM PST by Yona
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