Posted on 12/20/2009 9:26:37 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian
JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli authorities could soon use special commando units, unmanned spy planes and cellphone-jamming equipment to enforce a moratorium on new settlement construction in the West Bank, military officials said Sunday, deepening a showdown between the government and Jewish settlers.
Enraged settlers leaders vowed to resist the plan, prompting Defense Minister Ehud Barak to warn that settlers would face the full wrath of the military if they continue to flout the 10-month construction slowdown.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced the settlement slowdown last month in an attempt to restart peace talks with the Palestinians. But the Palestinians have rejected the plan because it allows for construction to proceed in 3,000 settlement homes already under construction in the West Bank and does not affect east Jerusalem, which Palestinians hope will be their capital
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From a logical examination of Zer0/DemoRat actions, I can come to no other conclusion. However I would like to specifically include the American capitalistic semi free enterprise economic system within your definition of "American power", because,...
My money says Israel does NOT wait for the first hit, and they bomb /sub missile Iran one way or another, with or without U.S. support.
I hope so too, and I consider the possibility that Israel may be letting Zer0 paint himself into a corner (taking the US with him).
Suppose this, Zer0 continues killing the US economy, shifting private jobs to government jobs and business and manufacturing overseas. Then he signs up for environmental reparations to "poor" countries.
Zer0 thinks the consequences for the American taxpayer won't show till after the 2012 election. What would happen to the US economy if we had an Arab oil embargo of America in say May of 2010?
Who could make sure that this happened?
Right, Israel
Who would not interfere? Right, Russia.
Who would take up the market supply slack? Right, China and India.
Who would quit buying US debt? Right, China.
Zero/Rats preside over the fall of America.
Israel pops popcorn.
Navy Patriot, that was truly the most well thought out post I have seen on here, and it is exactly correct. My opinion on Iran is far from the rest of the Right Wing’s... I feel like Obama will be forced to help Israel with Iran because in the face of his failures in all other spheres, the most imperative area for him is the military. If he destroys the economy (he has), ruins foreign policy, messes up health care, Copenhagen, etc THEN he has no choice but to be reluctantly forced into doing what has to be done with Iran. For him to either do nothing or just let Israel attack means the USA is no longer the most powerful nation in the world, and if Israel does it alone (they may not have enough planes, Obama would be trying to throw them to the wolves), it will kill the USA’s credibility EVEN MORE and Obummer will hit even lower numbers. Just my two cents
J
You are exactly correct with the exception of "not enough planes".
Israel has sufficient air power alone, and sufficient ballistic missile capability alone to take out all of Iran and Syria in one single strike.
Here is the problem: The Iran nuke facilities are several, all are well bunkered underground. Israel has first generation non nuclear bunker busters, but it is doubtful they will completely destroy the targets.
Last week, the US announced the start of manufacture of third generation non nuke bunker busters, (we are the only manufacturers, so far). The US has refused to supply Israel with any of the gen 2 or 3 BBs, and stupidly continues that policy.
Nuclear weapons strikes will do the job that gen 3 BBs would do.
The second part of this point: For an aircraft strike without unnecessarily sacrificing aircraft and crew, IDF needs to overfly Iraq. The US has refused to cooperate and has indirectly threatened to engage IDF aircraft overflying Iraq. Israel can protect it's aircrews and fully accomplish the mission by using a balistic missile attack with nuclear weapons. This would leave Israel much better prepared to defend against retaliatory attacks from where ever.
Keep in mind that a NON NUKE bunker buster attack only on nuke bunkers would probably not trigger Arab nation support outside Iran. Israel accomplished a surgical land assault on Syrian nuke facilities with only complaints from some Arab nations, nothing else.
Finally, the Arabs could only retaliate against Israel by force or propaganda. The cowards always lose using force, and win using propaganda, so what would change from Israel's action? However, the Arabs could retaliate against the US by simply turning off the oil. Russia would be fine with this and China would buy the oil.
Zer0 is either the dumbest halfrican on the face of the Earth, or the one most determined to destroy America.
Feiglin for PM!
Amen, Brother!
I never understood the tendency of so many FReepers to see Bibi as a sort of cross between John Wayne and Douglas MacArthur.
Feiglin for PM!
Unless the Israeli’s can block oil from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela, the US will have access to oil. It is also a mistake to think that it would be a bad thing that China quits buying our debt. The only way to stop and reverse the growth of this government tumor is real economic consequences.
Unless the rest of the world can knock off our Navy, we will continue to be the lone super power in the world. In my estimation, the consequence of an economic collapse would only result in a more isolationist US. US isolationism would create more instability around the world, but not completely destroy American power.
I think I’ll go build a dog house in my yard. I don’t own a dog, but I just want to see if IDF special forces drop in to bulldoze it.
When I say not enough planes, I mean Israel does not have enough planes to strike Iran AND protect itself from incoming missiles being fired from Iran, Syria, Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Gaza (Hamas). Iran’s plan is to strike Israel from all sides as a response to an Israeli attack on its nuclear installations. Moreover, Israel cannot use nukes for obvious reasons. The worst possible outcome of an Israeli strike could be alienating the Iranian people. Ironically, most Iranians don’t hate Israel, but hate their megalomaniac government. An Israeli strike accompanied by ground forces (it would have to) would possibly reinforce the belief that Israelis are “murderous” (as seen in the Gaza offensive). PLUS the biggest threat would be Iran closing its straits, AND ONLY the U.S. Navy could stop such a blockade, which is why Israel needs America to be involved. Obviously Obummer is against force, however, like the Democrats in general I feel like he will make a closed-door backroom deal with Israel (he better!). Lastly, I agree with you about the diplomatic war. The nuclear installations are all setup in civilian areas so Iran can claim war crimes like their “bretheren” in Gaza. If America doesn’t help Israel perform the strike and curb the diplomatic BS that will ensue then yes, Obummer is out to destroy America. Sadly, many in the world hate the Jews and would like to see them killed, and I fear that, unfortunately, Obama may make that possibility a reality.
Absolutely true, but not enough to avoid a 1978 Carter type serious stagflation with oh-so-popular lines and rationing accompanied by severe unemployment and depression economic numbers.
It is also a mistake to think that it would be a bad thing that China quits buying our debt.
Yes and no. Sure it would be great to stabilize the budget and protect the dollar, but it would be disaster if it was imposed on us rather than accomplished by us. Look at it this way, the world's worst narcotics addict will quit cold turkey and continue to maintain his job and job performance, guard his home, and make responsible decisions for his family, because his dealer, not him, decided to cut him off.
Lastly the US Navy IS as good as you say, but they WILL follow orders. There is little they can do if OPEC embargoes the US and REFUSES to sell oil to the US.
Just as an aside, keep an eye on China's navy.
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