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To: Elsie; Colofornian

Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Do you boycott his programs and books because he’s a Mormon?

There are Mormon sports stars. Do you refuse to watch them play?

I’m sure there are many Mormon businesses in the world. Do you boycott them?

This is absolutely ridiculous.


213 posted on 12/28/2009 4:52:30 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Elsie
I’m sure there are many Mormon businesses in the world. Do you boycott them?

National chains like the Marriott? (Yes...of course, they're part of the porn industry)

There are Mormon sports stars. Do you refuse to watch them play?

Nothing "veiled" there...we usually know they're Mormon...same with Beck. (Though I wouldn't buy a Beck book)

216 posted on 12/28/2009 5:04:58 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Elsie; Colofornian

Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Do you boycott his programs and books because he’s a Mormon? [SD]

Yes, actually I do. I don’t trust him to be completely honest and forthright. I don’t hate him, I just don’t trust him either.

There are Mormon sports stars. Do you refuse to watch them play? [SD]

Don’t watch sports, except PBR bull riding and to my knowledge there aren’t any LDS pro bull riders currently on the circuit. There is Cody Hancock but he is PRCA and I don’t keep up with PRCA.

I’m sure there are many Mormon businesses in the world. Do you boycott them? [SD]

If I am aware of them, yes I do. Of course that goes for atheist and gay owned businesses too. I much prefer to support Christian run businesses.

It isn’t about “hate”, it is about trust and about supporting anyone who gives money to the LDS organization through tithing.


217 posted on 12/28/2009 5:08:45 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: Saundra Duffy; AppyPappy; hoosier hick; TradicalRC; ThisLittleLightofMine; reaganaut; urroner; ...
Since comments from Saundra Duffy, appyPappy, Hoosier Hick, TradicalRC, ThisLittleLightofMine were all related -- I put comments from these posters below & respond to them.

I still can’t find the veiled Mormonism that this woman is opposing. [AppyPappy]

Hey, when an author deliberately covers up Lds “prophet” David O. McKay’s title when quoting him (p. 294 of 7 habits) – calling him merely a “religious leader,” then, yes, that’s veiling Mormonism. When you cite someone positively without qualifiers, you’re basically telling the reader these are mighty fine people to read…and Covey did the same in quoting Ezra Taft Benson in the book. (Benson was also an Lds “prophet” – of course, NOT id’d as such by Cover-up Covey). Covey also quotes another Mormon leader, N. Eldon Tanner.

Also Covey recommends ”daily prayerful meditation” on what he focuses on – the Mormon scriptures on p. 292. (Only, he leaves out the Mormon reference; hence, ‘tis veiled)

I was introduced to this book through work years ago, I had no idea who Covey but as I read it, my inner radar screamed something is not right about this....I later found out Covey was a Mormon. Not a bad book,but it does reek of Mormon good works… [ThisLittleLightofMine]

Nothing in the 7 habits book struck me as Mormomist, either explicitly or implicitly…You could be a person of any faith and apply these simple practices that are more for focusing on good habits. [TradicalRC]

So, when a MORMON author cites three MORMON leaders in a book (Benson, McKay, Tanner), nothing explicitly MORMON jumps right out atcha? (OK)

I have been through the 7 habits, and found them to be very useful in the management of people. I found nothing theological about it, it is mostly philosophical. I will admit, though, several participants claimed to see veiled Mormonism… [Hoosier Hick]

Well, as mentioned above, when a Mormon author cites Mormon leaders without telling readers they are Mormon, then, yes, that’s a deliberate exclusion of the word Mormon/Lds, etc.

As far as supposedly ”nothing theological about it,” then ya wanna explain, Hoosier Hick, why Covey...
...has 5 references in the index about spiritual components? (Upward spiral of spiritual renewal; spiritual dimension in renewal)
...mentions the Mormon god on p. 319 & the Mormon lord on p. 309?
...recommends ”daily prayerful meditation” on the Mormon Scriptures? (p. 292)
...claims that “intrinsic security” comes from “within…correct principles deep in your mind and heart…Peace of mind comes when your life is in harmony with true principles and values and in no other way.”?? (p. 298)

Well, that sounds pretty exclusive. But you know, principles/values can be impersonal -- in contrast to even principles/values derived from a personal God. True peace comes from trusting God (Isaiah 26:3) – and being in harmony in RELATIONSHIP with Him! (It's not "pocketing" all the correct principles)

In Covey's book, I see few references to God or relating to Him. Instead, He places the emphasis on correct principles (pp. 295, 305, 309, numerous others), which is thoroughly Joseph Smith, who was big-time "principle" this and "principle" that...

Covey also claims a theology that wealth-power comes from within vs. the God who transcends us. (When you understand that Mormon authors think of themselves as gods-in-embryo, then of course, YOU are the power-generator).

Do you boycott his programs and books because he’s a Mormon? [Saundra Duffy]

OK, again, let’s address what THE root issue was in this story:
A CHRISTIAN woman woman objected to her kids, who are still immature in their spiritual discernment, from being subjected to...
...MORMON philosophy...
...under the guise of CHRISTIAN curricula.
So, if a CHRISTIAN school doesn’t carry MORMON-produced material, are you now joining the Deseret News/Mormon Times chorus that CHRISTIANS are boycotting MORMON materials? Really? (So, when LDS bookstores don’t carry CHRISTIAN published materials, so they’re boycotting CHRISTIANS? Are you consistent in holding that position?)

So, Saundra do you also object to PARENTS having the right to oversee what spiritual materials their kids will be force-fed @ school?

222 posted on 12/28/2009 6:07:44 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Do you boycott his programs and books because he’s a Mormon?

There are Mormon sports stars. Do you refuse to watch them play?

I’m sure there are many Mormon businesses in the world. Do you boycott them?

Are these folks PUSHIUNG their MORMONism?

227 posted on 12/28/2009 7:08:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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