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No charges for Calif. officer who kicked suspect (VIDEO of pursuit and kick)
msnbc.msn.com ^ | 12.30.09 | msnbc.msn.com

Posted on 12/30/2009 9:55:07 PM PST by dragnet2

LOS ANGELES - Los Angeles County prosecutors have decided no charges will be filed against a suburban police officer who kicked a surrendering suspect in the head after a dangerous car chase.

Rodriguez, a parolee heavily covered in gang tattoos, was lying face-down on the ground during the May 13 incident, which was broadcast by a TV news helicopter. After four officers converged on Rodriguez, two of them did a "high five."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; donutwatch; gangbangers; immigration; leo
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To: HiTech RedNeck; dragnet2; JLS
I'm wondering what you guys think about the Navy SEALs being court martialed for allegedly punching a terrorist.

Let's assume we all just looked at a video of the SEALs punching the terrorist in the face while in the act of apprehending the terrorist. I assume two of you would advocate the court martial?

101 posted on 12/31/2009 5:30:14 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Know too little about that case to remark about the facts. If they singled out a few SEALs from hundreds of similar incidents it seems blatantly unfair on the surface.

But anyhow, what was to be gained in THIS case (not the SEALs case) except a few seconds of jollies on the part of the boys in blue? And maybe a channel for the built up vitriol of a few on a rightist web site? Consequences can be a bear, and the Feds have no money issues like California does (they can always print more).


102 posted on 12/31/2009 5:35:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, I am sure it is in there somewhere. :0)

That crap has to stop before it becomes more common. What is going to happen if the police can willfully disregard the law? I can foresee a lot more dead public servants. That profession might actually become as dangerous as a construction worker’s. ;0)


103 posted on 12/31/2009 5:39:05 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am unable to watch the video but I read about it.

Force was absolutely necessary in this case. However, perhaps the type of force used looked a little too harsh for some people.

When cops are subduing a violent perp who has just gone on a rampage, the act of lying on the ground would do little to comfort me. If I could see both of the perps hands extended from the body that would make me feel a little better.

Personally, I would have made sure another officer had this guy covered with a firearm, then put my firearm away, and then jumped on this guys back, leaned on his head and grabbed his hands. And I would have landed on him hard.

And yes, I am a cop. So I have more than a passing familiarity with this type of situation.

104 posted on 12/31/2009 5:41:09 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: seemoAR

The other (Federal) shoe is likely to drop on them and California knows it. This is one aspect of the two-edged sword of the relatively new Federal involvement in civil rights issues, producing an essential double jeopardy situation. There might be a temptation to wink locally at official misbehavior because Uncle Sam can be counted on to stomp (as he did with Rodney King).


105 posted on 12/31/2009 5:43:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Know too little about that case to remark about the facts. If they singled out a few SEALs from hundreds of similar incidents it seems blatantly unfair on the surface."

Wow...so you feel you know enough about this relatively unknown case to make a determination...more so than the officials who decided not to prosecute, apparently.

But as for the SEALs, who have been receiving national attention and much attention here...somehow, you've just missed it all, eh? lol Yeah, better to keep your mouth shut and be presumed a...well, you know how it ends. Too bad you couldn't show such discretion in this case.

"But anyhow, what was to be gained in THIS case (not the SEALs case) except a few seconds of jollies on the part of the boys in blue? And maybe a channel for the built up vitriol of a few on a rightist web site?"

Rightist...lol. Which "rightist web site" would you be referring to, if you don't mind? I like the implied sneer.
106 posted on 12/31/2009 5:43:21 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: thefactor

Watch it, then comment.


107 posted on 12/31/2009 5:43:48 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Spike Knotts

Like fools, all who have presumed to come against me can only mock and sneer themselves.

You know you’re wrong.


108 posted on 12/31/2009 5:44:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: thefactor

He was in the grip — of a K9 officer.


109 posted on 12/31/2009 5:45:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I will, but regardless of what I see I think I will stand by my assertion that some type of force was needed given this perp’s actions.


110 posted on 12/31/2009 5:47:28 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Spike Knotts
Which "rightist web site" would you be referring to, if you don't mind?

The caricature which Free Republic has been turned into by some characters to whom it is more like Redneck Rampage Republic or Statist Safety Republic.

111 posted on 12/31/2009 5:47:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: thefactor

You have basically said you don’t care about the facts so why should anyone care about what you think.


112 posted on 12/31/2009 5:48:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No answer? Just insults? Well, if you dig deep and find the courage to answer, I'll be waiting.

Here's a quote for you to consider.

"You don't have to destroy your enemy...just his willingness to engage."

So why won't you engage?

"Like fools, all who have presumed to come against me can only mock and sneer themselves."

Even your boyfriend? Ooh, now that's how you lay down an insult. And man, that is some grandiose verbiage. Either you're listening to too much GWAR and don't realize it's all tongue in cheek or you need to lay off the fantasy novels. Fools who presume to come against me! Die you soon shall! Forever triumphant I shall reign in my blood stained halls! lol
113 posted on 12/31/2009 5:50:45 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Ha ha LOL!


114 posted on 12/31/2009 5:51:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Wow that's quite a change from your previous sentiment.

Now I can see why people are reacting so negatively to you. You're kind of a douche.

I readily admitted that I had not seen the video and gave a professional opinion based on prior experience.

I simply said that a criminal who had just gone on a rampage where he could have caused a number of deaths deserved some use of force to restrain. If you disagree with that, then there is no hope for you. And I hope you are never attacked by a criminal because you'll be at their mercy.

115 posted on 12/31/2009 5:55:08 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Ha ha LOL!”

Glad you liked it. Even gladder that you still chose not to answer.

Oh...you could answer...but you won’t.

I guess you don’t have kids. If you ever do, you’ll realize how tired that trick is on an adult...and how childish your act here is. I think your ego matches your rather over the top phraseology. Fools! Only fools don’t see your genius! lol.

Now...on to your next non-sequitur...unless you care to answer any of my original questions? I know you’ve already said you can’t, but I believe in second(third, fourth) chances.


116 posted on 12/31/2009 5:57:06 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Look, the moment you decided to start talking gay, I knew you were mired hopelessly in sin.


117 posted on 12/31/2009 5:58:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Salamander
Maybe so but the dog literally passed with flying colors.

In the full training video, the dog goes after his handler's arm and won't release it . . . so, no.

118 posted on 12/31/2009 6:02:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Look, the moment you decided to start talking gay, I knew you were mired hopelessly in sin.”

I started talking gay? Who the hell said this...I can’t imagine anything more gay than the following quote by you. Would you say it to a person’s face? No, because you’d feel foolish. And if you did, you damned well better be sitting on a thrown and holding a scepter. And you’d probably still look stupid.

“Like fools, all who have presumed to come against me can only mock and sneer themselves.”

If you had to write a sentence defining gay, it would be someone who spoke like they were in a Richard Feist novel...but only on the internets. lol.

So why won’t you answer the questions? Do you think you’re fooling anyone? I mean, do you think you’re fooling us fools?

Your entire purpose here is to bog down threads with insults. You never debate...you make some idiotic leftist statement, make a feeble attempt at opposition, and then when you invariably start losing the “debate” you just resort to spamming insults. You’re not hard to figure out. There’s only about 500 million of you on the internet right now.


119 posted on 12/31/2009 6:04:37 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Sheesh...I meant throne. Freudian slip perhaps?


120 posted on 12/31/2009 6:05:34 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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