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'Dances with Wolves in Space' it's not
Rapid City Journal ^ | 11 jan 10 | Randy Rasmussen

Posted on 01/11/2010 6:45:05 AM PST by rellimpank

Visiting with family over the Christmas holiday, my brother talked me into going to see “Avatar,” the part-animated, part-live action and wholly computer-generated sci-fi movie.

Normally, I don’t like to go to see movies, but this was in 3-D at an IMAX theater. Well, I just had to check that out.

It was an incredible visual experience, once you got past the idea that the movie looked like a Yes album cover — complete with floating mountains.

In fact, a lot of the movie is familiar.

The story borrows heavily from “Dances With Wolves,” most of which was filmed northeast of Rapid City. Let’s just say that “Avatar” is not “Dances With Wolves in Space.”

Sure, a war-wounded soldier travels to an isolated outpost, contacts the local tribe, which assigns an initially reluctant female translator, with whom he falls in love while learning about their culture, is given a name in their language (something that, roughly translated, means moron), and he is accepted into their tribe shortly before he belatedly warns them that they are about to be wiped out by his technologically-superior kind.

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To: KeepUSfree

Never got to see YES with Patrick Moraz. Nice to know someone else from that era is a FReeper.


21 posted on 01/11/2010 7:09:07 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: rellimpank
It’s probably lost on Cameron that it is corporations and businesses that pay salaries to people so they can afford to bring their families to see movies like “Avatar.” And it is the U.S. military that preserves Cameron’s freedom to create movies that express his obvious hatred for the military
22 posted on 01/11/2010 7:11:16 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: rellimpank

23 posted on 01/11/2010 7:16:10 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: gwilhelm56

24 posted on 01/11/2010 7:18:05 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: rellimpank

I agree that Avatar was great visually and cliche’d, leftest, and boring storywise. But, what about the larger issue? Sigourney Weaver looked and acted like she hated to be doing her part. My bet is that Cameron is an arrogant SOB and this stiffled Sigourney’s creativity and sucked the life out of her emotionally. I would give anything to talk with her off the record about this project.

Whenever I see Cameron in an interview he’s always speaking as if he just cured cancer. Ughhh!!


25 posted on 01/11/2010 7:20:25 AM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: rellimpank
“Dances With Wolves” was a wonderfully literate story that broke the stereotypes about Native Americans that have ruined many a Western

Implies DWW was ground-breaking in this regard. In actual fact, it was kind of a cliche by the time the movie came out.

It did not rise above stereotypes, it merely transferred them to the Army and to a different tribe. I hated it.

26 posted on 01/11/2010 7:25:46 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: KeepUSfree
Love Yes....Probably have seen them 20 or so times......

I've seen all good people turn their heads this waaayyyzzzzz..............zzzzz.....snort...ssss.......

27 posted on 01/11/2010 7:25:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Obama - The first ever elected lame duck..............)
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To: pgkdan

Good choice. Take away the effects and it’s a bad, bad movie. Wait for the 3D stuff in a movie worth watching.


28 posted on 01/11/2010 7:27:04 AM PST by oldleft
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To: rellimpank

Just an aside for those on the thread: the Jake Sully character is former military - the paramilitary force of humans that is seen in Avatar is essentially a mercenary force, NOT the US military.


29 posted on 01/11/2010 7:31:22 AM PST by ikka
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To: HamiltonJay
The biggest plot hole was that they took a paraplegic Marine who's brother just died and had nothing to live for and put him in a giant body with superhuman strength and the ability to “mate” with supermodel hot giant blue women.

Was it ever in doubt which side he would take? I, quite frankly, got angry at the fact that it took him more than 20 seconds to pick a side.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

30 posted on 01/11/2010 7:36:34 AM PST by oldleft
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To: VRWCmember
epic fail pictures
31 posted on 01/11/2010 7:39:02 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: The_Reader_David

Oops, sorry missed yours somehow. LOL


32 posted on 01/11/2010 7:39:41 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: The_Reader_David

That .gif is hilarious.


33 posted on 01/11/2010 7:55:50 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: rellimpank

It’s a CARTOON people. I lost interest in those when I grew to be an adult. Give me Heckle and Jeckel if I must watch one. I would never watch a cartoon in a movie theater, heck I would never pay money to see a movie in a movie theater any more. I’ve got a house, garden, friends, large areas of salt water to to experience, and a full life, I have no need to pay to go to a movie theater.


34 posted on 01/11/2010 8:15:42 AM PST by Pilated
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To: rellimpank
Avatar from a Male Conservative Freeper perspective.

Observation # 1:
The blue Avatar girl was nowhere near as hot as the green Orion girl in the latest Star Trek movie or the two in the original series. And besides she was a freaken cartoon.

Observation # 2:
Its been done. I've seen Return of a Man Called Horse, Dances With Wolves, Soldier Blue, Little Big Man, and countless other movies showing the Natives as perfect people in harmony with all Heaven and Earth until the evil white man shows up. This one is more of the same except its on another planet.

35 posted on 01/11/2010 8:19:32 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: rellimpank

Remember that Disney movie – Atlantis?

Well the Colonel Miles Quaritch character reminded me of the Commander Rourke character big time; in fact he was a dead-on ringer.

For me it goes like this – take one caldron, through in Dances with Wolves, mix with Atlantis and Fern Gully then add a teaspoon of Smurfs for color and you have Avatar.


36 posted on 01/11/2010 8:21:44 AM PST by Bloodclot
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To: rellimpank

One thing no one talks about is that it was only produced at 24 frames per second. Normal movies are usually at 28 - 32 fps.

While it doesn’t sound significant, during the action seens or when the camera was panning fast, it definitely becomes blurry.

Very disappointing for me, as I thought it was a really beautiful movie. Story was predictable, but solid. Might need to take the wife to see it in IMAX just to get the full effect.

But why FOX decided that saving several million dollars by reducing the frame rate instead of putting their best product forward is beyond me...


37 posted on 01/11/2010 9:22:37 AM PST by gopher300
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To: rellimpank

The only reason why this isn’t just like “Dances With Wolves” in space is because it stars giant smurfs.


38 posted on 01/11/2010 9:35:07 AM PST by ReagansRaiders (Sarah Palin - Bob McDonnell 2012)
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To: pgkdan
Heh ... Saturday PM, needed to kill time, movie theater was handy. Four choices: Avatar, Sherlock Holmes, two chick-flicks.

Saw Holmes ... pretty darn good, actually.

39 posted on 01/11/2010 9:38:26 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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