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Democrats consider backup plan for health care reform [Admit No Good Options]
CNN ^ | 01/17/10 | Dana Bash

Posted on 01/17/2010 7:03:32 PM PST by freespirited

Faced with the once-unthinkable prospect of losing the Massachusetts Senate race, Democratic officials on Capitol Hill are quietly talking about options for passing health care reform without that critical 60th Senate vote.

Top White House aides insist they are not engaging in any talk of contingency plans, because they believe Democrat Martha Coakley will beat Republican Scott Brown in Tuesday's crucial Senate battle. ...

But Democratic sources on Capitol Hill say "what-if" discussions are taking place about how they could proceed with health care if Coakley is defeated, and they privately admit none of their alternatives is very good. According to senior Democratic congressional officials, here are options under discussion:

#1. Pass health care reform before Scott Brown is seated.

But multiple Democratic sources say this is unlikely. Even if House and Senate Democrats could reach a deal to meld their bills ...there would be a huge outcry from not only Republicans, but also an increasingly distrustful public.

For that reason, one senior Democratic source says some Democratic lawmakers who voted yes last time have already warned they would vote no if health care is voted on in advance of any swearing in of Brown.

#2. House passes Senate health care bill.

Democratic sources also call this extremely unlikely, because House Speaker Nancy Pelosi likely wouldn't have the votes. ...

#3. Revisit the idea of trying to push health care through the Senate with only 51 votes... to do that, Democrats would have to use a process known as reconciliation, which presents technical and procedural issues ...

#4: Try once again to get moderate Maine Republican Olympia Snowe's vote.

... multiple Democratic sources say they believe that is unlikely now.

#5. Their health care overhaul dies.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; healthcare; ma2010; reid
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Worth reading the entire article.
1 posted on 01/17/2010 7:03:33 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Only worth reading to get see one line:

“#5. Their health care overhaul dies.”


2 posted on 01/17/2010 7:05:33 PM PST by Brookhaven
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To: freespirited

Option #5 please.


3 posted on 01/17/2010 7:07:15 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: Brookhaven

I like 5


4 posted on 01/17/2010 7:08:25 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: freespirited

I think at least a few democrats will go into full retreat on health care if Brown wins.


5 posted on 01/17/2010 7:09:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: freespirited

All this hinges on the victory of a RINO.

Go Brown go!


6 posted on 01/17/2010 7:11:10 PM PST by NoLibZone (Be of good cheer True Conservatives- McCain could have won! Right? /Sarc . Tis Why We Support Brown!)
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To: freespirited

The Democrats actually have an excellent option.

Most people do want health care reform. Instead of using that as an excuse to push through socialized, government dictated medicine, the Democrats could go back to square one. They could assign committees to study the issue and define what and where the problems are. The committees could then come back to congress with the issues defined and solutions proposed, and congress could then implement one of the solutions.

Most likely, the solutions would be for some kind of tort reform, less mandatory coverage (does insurance *really* need to cover aroma therapy and abortion?), and more outreach to all those poor people who apparently aren’t signing up for the programs already available to them.

If the Democrats approached health care reform intelligently, they would be hailed as heroes.


7 posted on 01/17/2010 7:12:41 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: freespirited

Maybe the ‘bama could have all of the Republican senators dragged from their beds and shot (resisting arrest, of course). Then, mysteriously, the capital building burns to the ground. OK, it’s not an original plan...but we know it has worked!


8 posted on 01/17/2010 7:13:25 PM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: cripplecreek

You’re right. But I think even if Brown loses, they’re going to be scared away from it to save their sorry behinds.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 7:13:33 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: freespirited

I like #5.


10 posted on 01/17/2010 7:13:42 PM PST by BAW (I'm right.)
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To: exDemMom

Good ideas, but hard for a party to do when it’s a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trial Lawyers!


11 posted on 01/17/2010 7:14:36 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: mplsconservative

Most democrats are awfully quiet this last week or so.


12 posted on 01/17/2010 7:15:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: exDemMom
If the Democrats approached health care reform intelligently,

This was never about 'health care'.

13 posted on 01/17/2010 7:17:43 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s nice, isn’t it? LOL I so hope we get to hear their wailing and gnashing of teeth come Wednesday. Go, Scott, go!


14 posted on 01/17/2010 7:18:01 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: freespirited

Waterloo——(one way or another) Sen. Demint was correct.


15 posted on 01/17/2010 7:21:08 PM PST by tflabo
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To: freespirited; All

Why would reconciliation have “technical & procedural issues”? I thought the Dims could ram it through w/ only 51 votes w/ reconciliation.


16 posted on 01/17/2010 7:21:27 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: NoLibZone

Brown is a libertarian and as such is squishier on some social issues. But he definitely sees Bummercare as the fuster cluck that it is.


17 posted on 01/17/2010 7:22:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Brookhaven
Try once again to get moderate Maine Republican Olympia Snowe's vote.

So moderate is now defined as anyone that is not wearing a Hammer & Sickle armband?

18 posted on 01/17/2010 7:24:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: ChrisInAR

The existing rules would not allow a bill of this scope to be passed this way. Not to say the Rats couldn’t brazen it out and go nuclear and change the rules, but even that would have to wait for the new Congress.


19 posted on 01/17/2010 7:25:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: freespirited
Isn't Karma a b*tch?
Here we had a law, that said elections MUST be held in Massachusetts whenever a US Senator dies in office or resigns. But then the corrupt, sleazy Democrats thought they were too clever by half, so they changed the law to allow the Governor to nominate his own loony left pal as ted Kennedy's replacement.
Now they are about to pay for their crimes and get screwed.
If they had held the elections immediately after Ted Kennedy's death, when there was still strong sympathy for Ted Kennedy, the Democrats would have won it easy.
As it turns out, they have given plenty of opportunity for a guy like Scott Brown to come from nowhere, and position himself within striking distance of clobbering Martha Cokaley.
Doncha love it, when the diabolical machinations of evil doers come back and bits them in the butt?
20 posted on 01/17/2010 7:26:30 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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