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Content Of Character: Holiday For A Sex Addict (Martin Luther King's "Greatest Struggle")
1/18/10 | Self

Posted on 01/18/2010 12:51:42 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: Nextrush; All

Sexual Addiction is and has been hard for our culture to accept as a reality.

Yet with Tiger Woods and Bill Clinton as classic examples we find it hard to accept.

Read Patrick Carnes “Out of the Shadows” to discover why Tiger Woods is now in his care.

Addiction is addiction is addiction....there are just different routes.


21 posted on 01/18/2010 1:30:49 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Nextrush

The difference between Tiger Woods and Martin Luther King Jr. is that Tiger Woods’ accomplishment, like any sports or movie star is to get publicity and notoriety, while King’s and Kennedy’s fame is based on at least some substance. When bad pub washed away good pub, substance is what survives.


22 posted on 01/18/2010 1:30:52 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: chainsaw; Nextrush

Uhh... if King was a minister of the gospel then he ought to have known, God’s purpose towards every Christian is for him or her to end up as a cleansed saint who shows God’s glory in heaven. Refusing that is refusing salvation. If King simply meant that he did not intend to present himself as being perfection here on earth, then he was on the money.

Obama, on the other hand, apparently does not have a problem with being idolized.


23 posted on 01/18/2010 1:32:47 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Catsrus
Such a topsy, turvy world we live in where good is called evil, and evil - good.

I was thinking along these lines when I saw the article title, Israel's vaunted missle shield 'flawed'. I was struck by the contrast with the valorization of the Haitian earthquake victims. Here we have nothing but the best words for people at the lowest ebb of human existence, and only the demurral, "flawed", for the achievements of a people who epitomize the highest pitch of human striving.

24 posted on 01/18/2010 1:41:22 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: Nextrush
"The greater the man, the greater his evil inclination." - Talmud

(In the Talmud, the term "evil inclination" (yetzer hara) is often used to mean the libido.)

25 posted on 01/18/2010 2:03:16 AM PST by wideminded
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There will be many who come to me in that day and say Lord, Lord and I will say, depart from me I never knew you.

or can any Christian break any of the Ten Commanents AS A LIFESTYLE and expect to be covered by Grace?


26 posted on 01/18/2010 2:31:17 AM PST by ladyL
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To: ladyL

It’s argued over and over to people like you who never hear, but the only thing that matters is the God’s purpose towards the end state. Notice that the statement is “I never knew you” not “I knew you once then we broke off the relationship.”


27 posted on 01/18/2010 2:33:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Solomon had so many wives for political reasons. He needed to cement peaceful trade relations with neighboring tribes and states. What his sexual appetites were is not written in the Bible but he had did have a number of children who are named in the Book of Kings. He fathered fewer children than the great Saudi sheik to whom Obama bowed. How many children has Osama Bin Laden, BTW? Around 50, I believe.
Or is that the number of his sibs?


28 posted on 01/18/2010 2:36:12 AM PST by oneg12 (oneg12 Israeli olah)
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I have often wondered if MLK’s adulterous ways led to the opening the door to his early and untimely demise.


29 posted on 01/18/2010 2:36:38 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: dr_lew

As you can see by the thread on this subject there is no mourning for Jerusalem and all that she is. The Laodecian church is blind, having a form of godliness but denying the power therein.


30 posted on 01/18/2010 2:39:44 AM PST by ladyL
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To: Halgr
Sexual Addiction is and has been hard for our culture to accept as a reality.

Respectfully, I think this is BS. Most, or at least many many men, have strong sexual desires, but they control themselves! They sacrifice their desires to what they think is right. And they are not so narcissistic and self-absorbed to focus only on what they want. The men mentioned are totally arrogant and self-focused. It is giving these jerks a pass to call it addiction. It is the human condition, with which most men have to deal. And most do a much better job of it than these did.

31 posted on 01/18/2010 3:03:27 AM PST by Old_Grouch (62 and AARP-free)
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To: Nextrush
The questions go beyond this to the social and political aspects of MLK's life, but for this moment I choose to take note of the lust-sex addiction of Dr. King and ask how it can be reconciled to a national holiday and greatness.

It would have been better to create a holiday called "Civil Rights Day," to honor King's accomplishments, and the accomplishments of many others. Perhaps that change can still be made.

32 posted on 01/18/2010 3:57:10 AM PST by olezip
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To: Nextrush
Sexual Addiction was called a Whore Monger when I was a kid.

Not PC,,,Sooooo,,,

The name was changed so it did not lay the blame on

people of weak will with no morals,,,

Every time King or the Kennedys opened their mouths it

empowered those little basturds that were tryin’ to kill me

and guys that were as close as a Brother to me,,,

TET ‘68 started 42 years ago the 31st. of Jan.24:00 hrs.

I never heard a word from King et al about the 6,000 people

that were murdered in Hue City alone,,,

(crabbyassed ol’man rant!)...:0(...

33 posted on 01/18/2010 4:03:54 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Nextrush
No surprise when I heard this years ago. I never liked a marxist then any more than I like a marxist now. Just because he wisely chose Gandhi's method over Lenin's never made MLK a saint in my book.

I shudder to consider that possibilty that a few speeches are what writes the history for such men... In which case August 4th will be celebrated in the future - even though in reality is the merely the birthday of a marxist who became President.
34 posted on 01/18/2010 4:07:51 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Nextrush
Are we talking about the “Reverend” Martin Luther King?

Sexual addiction my @ss. There is no such thing. He enjoyed sex, period. He didn't want to control himself.

From that great philosopher:

“Money for nothin, chicks for free”

35 posted on 01/18/2010 4:58:52 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Old_Grouch

I would suspect that Dr. King or any other sexually “addicted” individual didn’t have any more orgasms that a typical man. It’s just that he had his with real women and the typical man has his with a fantasy one (Mother Thumb and her four daughters). Sexual “addiction” is bunk.


36 posted on 01/18/2010 5:10:38 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: Old_Grouch

“Respectfully, I think this is BS. Most, or at least many many men, have strong sexual desires, but they control themselves! They sacrifice their desires to what they think is right. And they are not so narcissistic and self-absorbed to focus only on what they want. The men mentioned are totally arrogant and self-focused. It is giving these jerks a pass to call it addiction. It is the human condition, with which most men have to deal. And most do a much better job of it than these did. “

I had to wade through a lot of crap to find the truth here.


37 posted on 01/18/2010 5:44:50 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is the most disgusting comment I have ever read. There will be NO nods and winks over sin in heaven, just rejoicing over what we have been delivered from.


38 posted on 01/18/2010 5:50:15 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Old_Grouch; All

as a retired psychologist that specialized in the treatment of sexual addiction and who was trained by Patrick Carnes....I’ve seen things you obviously don’t want to come out of denial and see for yourself....

Its ok, the vast majority of America and the world don’t believe in addiction either....

Its one reason why the 12 steps only work 37 percent of the time.

Search engines will provide you with the TRUTH you don’t want to see....but obviously you won’t take the time to go there....

I’m not sitting here making this up.....I’ve treated hundreds of men and women for sex addiction....people who can’t stop behaviors that destroy their lives.

For God’s sake just look closely at Tiger’s destroyed life....


39 posted on 01/18/2010 6:02:33 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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